Discussion in 'other software & services' started by ronjor, Jan 27, 2015.
What a surprise!
I tried and it reminds me a lot of the old Opera version...
I will keep a look for its development for sure!!!
Exciting. Will try it later today.
It looks as a real viable replacement of Presto for all advanced users.
NO extensions means I can't run it for awhile I guess. Specifically, at the least - uBlock, Privacy Badger, and Magic Actions.
Maybe they can also support Chrome/Opera extensions...
Ideally, they would revert back to using Chrome extensions. But it's crucial to - at the least - have an API available. Based on the front page, they seem like they want to go extensionless with it for as long as possible, but extensions aren't a focus. I believe this is a very bad direction. Most of us won't even run it without extensions!
Also this previous extremely slow.. Long way to go - maybe in a year or so.
We can ask that on their forum, and maybe they change their minds and give some priority to extensions...
Seems to work well in gmail which is a relief I am getting annoyed with google forever insisting on updating browsers
LOL, very exciting news. This basically proves my point that the developers of Opera Blink are complete idiots. I think Vivaldi is already better, but of course not good enough to replace Opera Presto, at least not yet.
Things that I noticed:
- It has a menu and statusbar
- It has an Ad Blocker + mouse gestures (not configurable)
- It has an ability to place tabs on bottom (shame on Crappy Chrome, Opera Blink, Maxthon, Sleipnir)
- It has a smooth bookmarking system (with URL Alias)
- It has a fast rewind and forward function
So now it basically needs more settings and extensions. Of course CPU and RAM usage is a bit high, but that's because of WebKit.
Been testing it for some hours. Very impressed. Still in early stage of course, but already pretty packed with useful features. Definitely keeping my eyes on this in the coming months. Also on Spartan, since I noticed during the Microsoft event that it had Tab Previews liks Presto (and now Vivaldi), plus notes.
I forgot to mention that it also has the "permissions per page" feature like in Chrome. For some reason, the Opera Blink developers forgot about this. It also has a spell checker.
Stuff that needs to be fixed:
- No way to disable auto resume
- No way to double click to close tabs
- No way to keep ad-blocker enabled (turns off after restart)
- No "Paste and Go" function
- No password "auto-fill" function
- High CPU Usage on some pages without any good reason (for example on www.tweakers.net)
Cool post - thanks Ron
You're welcome. Everything old is new again.
Thanks for that info, but could you clarify, is it "on bottom" below the address bar? Or on bottom of the screen where you like it ?
Does it have configurable Keyboard Shortcuts?
I think you already know the answer on this one, it's what you call "tabs in the basement".
BTW, some other things I noticed: The install size of 420 MB, why do all browsers based on Chromium take that much space? And why does it install itself in the APPDATA folder? Positive point: It runs just fine with Sandboxie.
I discovered a major bug:
When you close the "settings window" after you have closed the browser, then you're out of luck, because on restart, Vivaldi refuses to launch, instead it will open the "settings window". I haven't been able to fix this. So it's probably better to integrate this into a tab, instead of a separate window.
Oh crap Well...it was worth to ask anyway. At least I don't need to install it to find out, so thanks for letting me know
It's how it worked in Opera Presto, so they basically copied this idea.
Seems like it's based on Blink, so this should be possible. But I think they will probably use their own extension system, like Opera has done.
BTW, it hasn't been listed yet on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers
It would take extremely long to collect a decent amount of extensions to set-up their own extension store, imho. Considering the Blink is ticking under hood it gives me only sense to use the Chrome extension store. It should be easy as it is for Opera Blink, you only need to install Download Chrome Extension from Opera store and then you can install/use any Chrome extension.
Thanks -- I'll keep an eye on its development.
Interesting development, I do hope they reconsider their view about addons, they will need them, especially with the power-user demographic.
Probably because it doesn't require Admin rights, so they can auto-update without user interaction. Downside is that if something malicious wants to modify the files, it doesn't need Admin rights. I think Mozilla found a better compromise by still having the added protection by installing in Program Files, but using a background service so updating doesn't give UAC prompts.
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