For a Lightweight Linux Desktop, Try the New Xfce 4.10

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  1. vasa1

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    Like the idea of the deskbar mode !
     
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    4.10 look pretty good :))


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    thanks from posting vasa1

    i like also Collapsed view of app finder

    and

    Applications Autostart, Settings Manager many good improvements
     
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    Any idea on how to install it on 12.04? Regular Ubuntu, not Xubuntu. One link to a launchpad ppa has "This PPA does not contain any packages yet".
     
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    i guess we have to wait little for ppa :)

    or

    by default they add in xubuntu backport ppa
     
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    Will wait :thumb:
     
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    In Open SUSE, no need for a dedicated PPA. It was introduced into Tumbleweed.
     
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    Isn't that the purpose of Tumbleweed? To have the latest since it's a rolling release? Meanwhile, since I'm new to Xfce, I hope the change to v 4.10 won't involve too much re-learning.
     
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    And now it has
    Who's going first?
     
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    So you have a wide-screen. Mine's just a laptop so I'll have to make the best of the vertical panel which I've set to appear on hover so that there's no permanent hogging of space.

    Forgot to mention, I installed 4.10 via the ppa from Launchpad.
     
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    I am glad to see you trying out Xubuntu. I like it a lot, but 4.10 ? I am not keen on vertical panels, surely one can change that ? Also, what about panel applets like sensors and so forth, do they all work as they did in 4.8 ?
    Time to dual boot vasa1 ? ;)
     
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    The P sensor and the System Load Indicator work as they did in Unity. I had to fiddle a bit with the latter. There are two little green men. One in the top right corner and the other in the Applications Menu drop down. The former only allows me to log out. The latter has the shut down option as well.

    Yes, I guess everything is tweakable but I don't like the bottom horizontal panel ergonomically that's why I set it up to be vertical.

    For the most part, my Ambiance theme which I tweaked in Unity works just fine for me.

    Sensu stricto, I'm not sure whether I'm using Xubuntu: it's Ubuntu 12.04 with Xfce slapped on but if it smells as sweet who cares ;)

    (I've started terrorizing people over at the Xfce forum for a change ;) )
     
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    BTW, one thing that isn't perfect is my mouse cursor/pointer. It's the glassy red one with a shadow but the hourglass is missing. I get an (ugly) black arrowhead with a clock next to it.
    I had it set up just right in Unity but now I have to read and understand this.

    Done!
     
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    One thing that is different in 4.10, at least from my limited use, is that some keyboard shortcuts don't work. All of these involve the "shift" key.
    For example, in 4.8, I could set "ctrl+shift+f" to open Firefox. In 4.10, I get no response. And the shift key is functional. If I change to "ctrl+alt+f", all is well. Feature / bug / issue at my end, I don't know. I've asked at the Xfce forum as well.

    The other thing for the top panel (and I presume other horizontal panels (?)), is that one now has to use separators (set to expand) to make things look like 4.8. Otherwise, the top-right corner is bare: the various indicators that populated that area in 4.8 slid over to the left. And that is a feature.
     
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    Hi,

    Xfce 4.10 is looking great. As vasa1 noted... I am also having some minor issues with shortcuts. Which is particularly annoying... because I cannot stop myself from using the keyboard shortcuts even though they are broken.

    -MessageBoxA
     
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    Just upgrded to 4.10 on my old low spec standby laptop. It's great !
    I see that the notification settings have been removed from system settings,
    you have to use the settings editor instead.

    When hovering over icons on the desktop, the thumbnails are HUGE. Anyway to
    adjust their size ?

    Huge notify.jpg
     
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    sorry for late replay i had xfce too but on other drive which show badsector few ago i put it in dump for a while :D

    i check again with it few days later still have old xfce install on 2 i remove one and install rosa lab maybe and upgrade other one and update everyone when done :D
     
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    Ocky, it appears that even zombies don't appreciate hanging out with me. But I am not using the xfce4-term thing. I'm using the gnome one. And I'm not using Xubuntu proper. It's regular Ubuntu 12.04 with Xfce 4.10 slapped onto it.
     

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    yes zombies itself is

    xfce4-terminal process when you run you see that if you remove it i guess no zombie its bug not big deal ;)
     
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    You are right. I just tried it and I got my zombie. I feel much better now ;) but, in future, I'll stay with gnome-terminal.
     
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    Well, I just had to redo them with alt instead of shift. But I can't find anything "official" to indicate that shift won't work in 4.10 keyboard shortcuts.
     
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    I think running this command shows what combinations are available (by default?):
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     xfconf-query -c xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts -l -v
    And, I guess one could assign something to "xfce4-session-logout".
     
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