ESET SS 4 with limiters

Hi

usualy i used network limiter or similar program from another company

I have Vista 64b and when use combination x64 and network limiter or DU meter ... than my web pings are very big from 500ms to 1000ms

My scenarios

in Vista 32b and XP 32b pings are 20ms with ESS 4 (good)


1) vista 64b without ESS4 and without Limiter
pings 20 ms

2) vista 64b +ESS4 without limiter
pings are 30ms

3)vista 64b ESS4 + limiter
pings 500-1000ms

4)vista 64b without esset + limiter
pings are 20ms

5)vista 64b ESS3 (i tried older version) + limiter
pings are 20ms

all scenarios was used for Windows 7 (but same as Vista 64b)
1) win7 without ESS4 and without Limiter
pings 20 ms

2) win7 64b +ESS4 without limiter
pings are 30ms

3)win7 64b ESS4 + limiter
pings 500-1000ms

4)Win7 64b without esset + limiter
pings are 20ms

5)win7 64b ESS3 (i tried older version) + limiter
pings are 20ms


when operating system is Vista or Windows 7 64bit version than:
ESS4 - slows my web ping diference between ESS3 and ESS4 is 10 ms (50%)

when with ESS4 is used Network limiter or Du meter than pings are 15* higher

all this causes slow showing webpages

for this test I used web meter tester and I chceck Web odezva
http://rychlost.cz

How to solve it?

 

Today I make another tests

sory for CZ language pictures but when I disable scannign HTTP (I dont know how it called in english see screen) then pings are 20 ms and ESET SS 4 works great with all limiters.

http://img35.imageshack.us/i/esetkontrola.jpg/

http://img12.imageshack.us/i/esetmain.jpg/

What is this proactive http scanning?
Or how shoul I correct this? (Because when I enable this pings are from 500ms to 1000ms)

 

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i will be bumping till 8.3.2010 when my licence ends (paying for unstable product on vista 64 bit, free user of other product and pirates are happy but legaly user no)

any idea how to solve it?

 

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nobody can help?

 

hi,
I can't understand what is your real problem or if your problem is related with ESS product...

 

In ESS 4 when I tick Active check HTTP and I use network limiter program than my pings are about 500-1000ms.

This is my problem.

 

Active mode is suitable only for browsers, it may cause problems when used with other types of applications. Network limiters should always be set to passive mode.

 

Hi Marcos and how to do it? How shoul I set passive mode?

 

It's simple - mark only browsers in the Active mode list (Web access protection -> HTTP,HTTPS -> Web browsers -> Active mode). Anyways, DU Meter is not listed there so I wonder what applications you set to work in active mode. It worked fine here with DU Meter and IE/Firefox set to active mode.

 

all program from list I have unchecked like

http://yfrog.com/5fpasivej

 

You shouldn't measure communication parameters via HTTP as the HTTP traffic flows through the antivirus scanner and other OS parts (e.g. Windows Filtering Platform on Vista/Windows 2008/Windows 7) which causes certain delays. It could be that the difference you've noticed is affected by the time necessary for WFP to manage the communication flow between drivers at the same WFP level if more drivers are registered (as it most likely is in the case of the HTTP scanner and a network limiter). If you notice higher pings by measuring them not through HTTP, let us know the exact version of the software you used to reproduce the problem.

 

Vista 64b SP2 Cz + Network limiter 2 (or Network limiter 3 beta) + eset SS 4 v 4.0.424.0 (or 4.0.437)

First I found in first version of ESET SS 4.

 

As I wrote, you shouldn't measure ping via HTTP, it will always produce delays. Disabling HTTP scanning for the time of testing should return correct results, however.

 

Yes I agree but

I tried many test diference 20ms - 30ms but no (500 - 1000)ms

when I tryed from 2 difrent PC throught 1 router test XP result 20-30ms but vista 64b 500-1000ms (same time and this is strange)

and this functionality caused slow loading webpages with many objects.
Usualy if i am seeing www.idnes.cz :
normaly webpage is loaded about 1 second
with this combination it takes about 30 seconds (I see on screen that image1 is show, than text array is show .... then flash is show .... after 30 second all page is showed)

 

Of course, as I said, that would explain the delay to be caused by Windows Filtering Platform and the time it needs to pass the data to other drivers that are registered in the WFP chain.

 

Than I dont understand where is problem if Vista or comunication between smart security with limiter. Why under 64bit systems (Vista and Win7 RC) dont work correctly?

Under version 3 of smart security it is ok but I dont know if there is Web access protection.

 

As I wrote previously:

 

and it is possible to somehow get correctly working with WFP?

How shoul I correct? or Why ESS SS 3 works ok? (other avira nad kaspersky works great too). I am still thinking that something in v 4 is wrong.

 

Again, I'll repeat it: we assume there's a problem with WFP supported in Vista SP1 and newer OS. WFP support was first added to v4, hence v3 works fine. WFP is a feature in the hands of Microsoft, software developers only utilize its API, they are not familiar with all the ins and outs.

 

OK now I understand ... I am sorry for slow understanding

How long esset will be supporting v3 of smart security?

And could you please tell me differences between 3 and 4?

 

Ok Marcos I tested again if this is WFP bug from microsoft than why trial KIS 2010 works ok? (it should be same as ESET SS v 4 - means no dellayed ping?)