Email service that does not require either an alternative email address or phone numb

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  1. caspian

    caspian Registered Member

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    I wanted to set up a new gmail and yahoo account. But they are both asking for at least another contact email address and sometimes a phone number. But often times if you give them an email address they skip the phone number requirement. So if I give them an email that is associated with an identity then that defeats the purpose. I had used tormail before to get around this, but I guess it is gone. And I had successfully set up a mail.com account without giving them an email address or phone number in the past. But for the last couple of days I have tried to set up a Mail.com account and it tells me that my account cannot be set up at this time. Try later. I also tried GMX and got the same thing. Does anyone know of an email service that will let me sign up without having to give them another email address or a phone number?
     
  2. mirimir

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    VFEmail.net is good. They don't ask for anything except a name. Also, they're Tor friendly, and even have a hidden service address <http://344c6kbnjnljjzlz.onion/>. And if you want a paid account, they accept Bitcoin.
     
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    Thanks! I set up an account with them!
     
  5. caspian

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    Thanks for that. I tried one of those texting services once but Google said the number had been used too much. But maybe they change numbers each time or something. I'll give it a try. Thanks for the tip.
     
  6. tobacco

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    Hello Caspian

    For the record, i "DO NOT" work for CryptoHeaven:D but do recommend it especially now that they offer "free accounts" though with some limitations (limited file/attachment size? and storage allotment "100MB", must login every 30 days). You can but are not required to provide a number or email address.

    During the account creation process (desktop), choose to store your private key "locally" if that is your preference and if you have an android phone, copy your private key over to use with the free android app called "SaluSafe". If you do not use java, it will create it's own portable java in it's folder for it's use "only".

    "Everything" in your account is encrypted and only decrypted for you "locally" whether it be your desktop or android phone.

    Email received from non cryptoheaven/salusafe users is automatically encrypted with your public key when it hits the server with the original permanently deleted within 10 minutes.

    If you have any questions, fire away :)
     
  7. caspian

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    Wow that sounds so cool. I am going to give it a try, thanks!
     
  8. MrBrian

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    I just signed up with GMX.com. I didn't provide another email address or phone number.
     
  9. Nebulus

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    This is a bad idea. If the secondary email or phone number you provide are not under your control you are risking that someone else to take over your newly created email address.
     
  10. TairikuOkami

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    I am pretty sure, that even his primary email will be disposable, otherwise he would not risk not having a password reset option.
    On the other hand, he can set up another gmail account afterwards and then use both gmail emails protecting each other.
     
  11. mirimir

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    That is a risk. But for casual use, I'd trust CCC's https://anonbox.net/.
     
  12. caspian

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    That is so cool! Thanks Mirmir. But why does Firefox flag that website and make you add exceptions?
     
  13. mirimir

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    Like Wilders, CCC is using a self-signed certificate.
     
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    Any updation to date? Any new email service with such features or the existing ones went better or worse?
    Thanks.
     
  15. hawki

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    Our surveillance state is so sick today that using such a service might mark you as a possible target for special surveillance.

    "One expert suggested that the NSA's intention here was to separate the sheep from the goats -- to split the entire population of the Internet into "people who have the technical know-how to be private" and "people who don't" and then capture all the communications from the first group."

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-03/are-you-targeted-nsa

    Of course everyone that visits Wilders might already have been targeted. - sick -- very sick.

    Is the married man who uses TOR to talk with his mistress a target too I wonder?

    In a world gone insane,only the insane are sane.
     
  16. mirimir

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    I passed that point long ago. Or at least, mirimir etc did. Otherwise, not so much.
    We're not paranoid. They really are trying to get us ;) Well, mostly they want to have everything on file, in case something comes up. One never knows, after all. Anyway, just gotta man up :ninja:
     
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    I have had several there for awhile, although no "Palancar" there. LOL!!
     
  18. krustytheclown2

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    mail2tor.com is probably worth mentioning here (there's a link to the .onion from that page)
     
  19. Reality

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    Are you sure they have a free account? I couldn't find anything about a free account on their confusing website.

    Just a headsup for who might find this interesting....I did a quick startpage search and looked at a review about 2 years old... in particular I wouldn't be keen that there is a "User ID" of your account which basically pops up "everywhere" according to this review....

    Excerpts (click on the link at the bottom of the 1st link to get Page 2 OR go there directly) Bolded Emphasis mine

    http://thesimplecomputer.info/tough-love-a-review-of-cryptoheaven-secure-email
    http://thesimplecomputer.info/pages/tough-love-a-review-of-cryptoheaven-secure-email-page2

     
  20. tobacco

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    My concern is security, not being anonymous. Everything on the server is stored encrypted and i hold my private key on my computer and android phone. Their source code is freely available for anyone to analyze.

    Yes, they offer free accounts but they have some limitations such as storage space size, features, etc.
     
  21. RockLobster

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    It should really be quite simple.
    All we need is an email account that is accessible from open source email clients using TLS, it should allow the users to generate their own key pairs locally and upload ONLY the public key to the email server.
    All outgoing email should have the users own public key attached and the receiver encouraged to use it to reply.
    All incoming email that is not already encrypted should be encrypted by the email server using your public key so it is stored encrypted with your own key.
    Private key should never be anywhere except on the users computer.
    When email is received with the senders public key attached the client should automatically associate that key with the sender and in future use it to encrypt mail sent to them.
    Ideally the email provider should be in Europe and owned by a European company as they have better privacy laws. Switzerland would probably be the best place as their own federal laws prevent even their own government from forcing a communications provider to give up its users communications.
    Of course as we know from Snowdon, none of that is any good if you are Windows user, you might as well upload all your encryption keys and passwords to a TLA right now.

    Anyway I guess the point of this thread was to recommend an email provider, I think check out the Lavaboom project.
    It is still in beta but scheduled for public release pretty soon. They will have free accounts. You may be allowed to sign up to beta test it already.
     
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