Elon Musk snaps up $3bn Twitter stake

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  1. plat

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    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...ured-tweet-experts-predict-hes-going-to-lose/
    Click-bait title, right? I mean, it starts this whole process of "no, this guy is made of actual Teflon like some other rich-like folk out there who will remain nameless" etc. For once, ONCE, pls. let something stick to this guy. :(
     
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    I remember this tweet. After this, Tesla's stock took off like a rocket, from $400 dollar to $2800 dollar, I could have made at least half a million, but this weird spike came out of nothing. I do think Musk should be punished for tweeting such nonsense. I wonder if this stuff made him wanting to buy Twitter.
     
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64381582
     
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    I think the Post reported on this previously: the company was deep in a $3 billion financial hole before Musk took over.
     
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    A 71% loss in advertising since Musk took over is adding to Twitter's financial woes.
    An increase in subscription fees will not cover this chasm. Mr Tweet also has a massive loan payment at the end of January & if he and his backers can not meet that, bankruptcy maybe inevitable.
    The question is: what will the banks do ?

    Security & safety at Twitter also under scrutiny by the EU right now.
    Twitter EU might be looking at a June 1, 2023 ban if EU concerns are not adequately addressed.
     
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    That's why I sold all of my Tesla shares, because I wouldn't be surprised if Musk may need to sell some more shares to pay off Twitter's debt. Or he will simply raise money by selling new Twitter shares, but not on the stock market since Twitter now is a private company again. So this is private equity, and as soon as Twitter's mess is fixed they will return to Wall Street.
     
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    Oh, this is terrible. Wow! But in hind-sight, if Twitter can't (or won't) pay its rent, how can we expect significant upgrades to its general security?
     
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    Good point. But since I'm anti-crypto, I can't feel sorry for those people who lost $16000 dollar from this Robinhood scam by investing in these fake crypto tokens. :p
     
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    According to Reuters, the drop in advertising began in September, the month before Musk took over, when promotions were shown with tweets promoting child porn:

    https://www.reuters.com/technology/...s-next-child-pornography-accounts-2022-09-28/

    Another report indicates that child porn groups have moved to Mastodon. One SecJuice investigation reveals that it's actually dominated by such:

    https://gript.ie/mastodon-dominated-by-child-pornography/

    Finally, another reason why companies like HBO decreased advertising is because they're losing money, too. For example, WB Discovery is $3 billion in the hole, and HBO had to remove at least 14 percent of its employees. Similar is affecting other tech and media companies.

    Meanwhile, Musk managed to cut Twitter losses from $3 billion to $270 million.
     
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    The banks came through for Mr Tweet (first month's payment - next payment due Feb 27)...

    While Twitter made its first interest payment, its debt load is still a heavy burden. Annual interest is expected to exceed $1.2 billion, some of which carry floating rates that could continue to increase as the Federal Reserve hikes interest rates.... Banks also provided Twitter with a $500 million revolving credit facility, which allows the company to borrow, pay it back and borrow again over the life of the loan. If Twitter draws on it, its interest expense would increase.

    https://www.pressherald.com/2023/01/30/twitter-makes-first-interest-payment-on-musk-buyout-debt
     
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    "EDITORIAL: Twitter How to burn $44 billion"

    I think that's $220 million and not billion.

    The writer criticizes the purchase but unwittingly points out that the country was being run to the ground before Musk took over.

    Related:

    "Elon Musk says Twitter is losing $4 million a day: How many $8 subscribers would it need to break even?"

    In short, Twitter was already doing poorly, while, as pointed out earlier, advertisers were complaining about problems like child porn before the sale was completed. Meanwhile, other reports point out that Meta also plans to come up with for-pay features.
     
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