Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete?

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  1. Devinco

    Devinco Registered Member

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    Hi Everybody,

    Will SP2 encompass and therefore make obsolete the following excellent utilities?

    WWDC
    DSOstop2
    HTAstop2003
    XPdite
    DCOMbobulator
    SocketLock
    ShootTheMessenger
    Unplug UPnP
     
  2. ronjor

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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    Devinco

    Good question. Not a peep from Steve Gibson.
     
  3. Devinco

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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    Perhaps there is a brave soul out there willing to try them out on SP2 and tell us if they are no longer needed?
     
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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    Exactly what i was thinking... it can't hurt.. just open them, they give a message first up anyway.....

    says he who does not have to reformat

    TAS
     
  5. se7engreen

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    I tried htastop 03 and it seemed to work fine. Also, not on your list but I downloaded xp anti-spy and tried it. It must be ready for sp2 as there is an option to disable the security center.
     
  6. Devinco

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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    Hi se7engreen,

    It's not whether they would run in SP2.
    Would all the new security bells and whistles in SP2 make it unnecessary to run them?
     
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    Opps,
    Misunderstood. Must've been on the usual caffine buzz...
     
  8. jamie slate

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    hello, my girlfriend and i are about to download SP2. do you see any reason for our not installing these patches? thanks again.
    jamie
     
  9. jamie slate

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    hello, has anyone upgraded to SP2 while these utilities have been installed. thanks : )
     
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    I had about half of them installed when I installed sp2. Have had no problems at all.
     
  11. Devinco

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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    Hi Jaimie,

    No, I think SP2 will be great once all the other software programs get versions that don't have any compatibility issues. Just search the forum for SP2 and find out what issues people are having with programs that you use.
    I am just waiting until things settle down a little.
    If you have the ability to make a backup image of your hard drive before, I would do it. That way you can restore the computer back if something doesn't work out.

    These other programs listed in this thread title closed serious holes on previous versions of windows, but I don't know if they are still necessary with SP2 and that's why I asked. I will eventually install SP2 and find out (it would probably need a clean install), but until then, I'll wait a little.
     
  12. Devinco

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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    SP2 is just a service pack that goes over windows. If you already had these programs installed before SP2, it would not be fair to say that they are obsolete because they already closed the holes. The only way to be sure is a clean install of Windows XP, then SP2, then running these utilities to see if the holes were already closed by SP2.
     
  13. jamie slate

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    thanks for your quick replies. i feel a little better now : ) i'll do a search of the forum and upgrade in a month or so.
     
  14. gerardwil

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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    One tool not mentioned here is SafeXP.


    What's New
    Version 1.4.8.20 - August 17, 2004


    • Fixed Windows XP Service Pack 2 Automatic Update issues.
    • Made some cosmetic changes.
    http://www.theorica.net/safexp.htm
     
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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    Thanks for the cross reference Gerardwil.
    That is a GREAT article!
    Using that article and BlackViper's SP2 update (when he completes it) should making tweaking SP2 a breeze.

    Based on this info, after adjusting all the SP2 settings for security, I would still run these utilities just to check that the security holes are closed. If there are any still left open then just use the utilities to close the hole.
     
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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    Update from Steve Gibson himself: Here is the interview
    Okay, that leaves WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003. Are they obsolete due to SP2? It would need to be tested fairly on a clean install of SP2 that did not have these utilities on them. I know some of the options in WWDC duplicate Gibson's utilities, but not all. And what about DSOstop2 and HTAstop2003?
     
  18. AxeSlinger

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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    Could someone tell me what WWDC is? Thanks.
     
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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    you can read and download here. be sure to read all the page
    :)
     
  20. AxeSlinger

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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    Thanks Iceni60, I wasn't aware of that one. I wonder if you still need it with sp2?
     
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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    i dont know, but id bet that its still needed for most, if not all the fixes.
     
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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    i know Steve Gibson's word should be final, but could someone just say it's true. here is an extract from the gkweb-Steve Gibson interview

     
  23. Tassie_Devils

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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    I would take that as a given, but you can always check with each app.

    Simply opening/testing will indicate if there's a problem.

    With WWDC, the same thing, if you run it, it will still tell you and more than likely you will still show 445 as not CLOSED. [edit: I mean if it has NOT been previously closed by the use of WWDC, as opposed to just being 'Stealthed' from the outside looking in]

    If you have SP2 and have those programs, give them a try. :)

    Cheers, TAS
     

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    DSO

    :)
     

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    Re: Does WindowsXP(SP2) make WWDC, DSOstop2, HTAstop2003, XPdite, and others obsolete

    thanks Tassie, i'll give it a go. but i already had them when i installed SP2, so maybe we wont know for sure until someone reinstalls OS with SP2. are you willing to give it a go(a reinstall?) go on TASSIE, it would take a great weight off my mind :D . i just checked and they are all still disabled. thanks Tassie :)


    i know i'm going off topic now sorry, but if you miss steve gibson's software you could always download ASPI_ME Media Demo from this page...
    http://www.grc.com/freepopular.htm
     
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