Discussion in 'polls' started by Meltdown, Aug 22, 2005.
too easy meaning it's your choice what to download
Well, what's usually offered for download? Pirated software and mp3's. Are you aware of any legal download offers?
yes, lots. And there are other things besides music and software. Sure, the majority is probably illegal (music, software and films). But there's freeware, home made movies (or edit) about all sort of things, PM you
You must be kidding. A member here on Wilders - but downloading freeware via P2P ...
Okay - I know that, and I've used that myself. But that's an official download from the Bittorrent servers of OpenOffice and thus an exception. I was talking about downloading software from dubious sources which is the normal case if we're discussing about P2P.
Here's an example: old books, like Adam Smith, Karl Marx, David Ricardo, Weber, Aristotle, Plato, Durkheim, which if propertary, i don't really care, it belongs to the world, they know where they can put their copyrights (if there are any)...
ftp, bittorrent, freenet
still sparse & slow though
as for the legal standard required to go after someone employing bittorrents
they might close trackers but proving they downloaded a copyrighted work from a participant could be very difficult. Every 34th word of a book doesnt provide enough context to constitute copyright, pursuit would have to proceed on a conspiracy basis.
http://www.lessig.org/blog/ > Free Culture > short flash version
(professor of law Stanford) http://fairuse.stanford.edu/
Electronic Frontier Foundation
Free Software Foundation
P2P - no can't be bothered.
No, it's too risky just to get something for free. If I want a CD I'll buy it.
Take a look at this thread
P2P is the first and main idea of developing internet technology. Why should ever someone or some foundation need internet?
P2P is the answer.
They claim it is illegal.
Who's saying this? The companies earning zillions of dollars a day. The companies who want to earn tons of zillions of dollars a day.
I'm not a fool; I won't give my money to people who are 1000000 times richer than me. I'm a dedicated p2p sharer.
If you are a novice, I'd advise you scan every file before double-clicking it.
Easily configurable within the limits.
There's nothing to worry about, if you know what you are doing.
LONG LIVE e-mule BROTHERSHIP!!!
Shareaza & KCeasy for music and movies.
Article 16b of the Dutch Copyright Act says I can download as many songs, movies, books, and dirty pictures as I like for "the sole purpose of private practice, study or use."
A frequently changing collection of P2P TV apps to watch fooball. SopCast, TVUPlayer, and others.
Used to be an active P2P user: movies and music. Shareaza and uTorrent where the ones I used to use. But after reinstalling my OS 10 times within a 6 month period, I gave up. Why? Question answered already.
We all know free porn and P2P are the worst offenders in computer security. As a very conscious user I decided not to play with fire, even though there are measures to recover from an attack, like imaging the whole HD; but honestly I don't like to push my hardworking machine. They have feelings as well
Worst offenders in computer security are people.
Porn, free or otherwise, and P2P are nothing but concepts for people to use, this way or another.
In other words, unless you say someone could hack your computer through Emule/Shareaza/etc., or because you use it, P2P is just a way to download.
The choice of what to download is still yours.
Completely agree. It is not P2P and porn that causes your computer to magically become some virus hotspot with all the latest infections. It is the users lack of education and common sense. I don't have to click that exe to install the latest codec to see my "movie", but I do because I want to see it so much, when if I had thought about it most likely it was a virus pretending to be a movie and I am just dumb for clicking it.
Same goes with P2P, all the users fault. It is not like if I use torrents or newgroups I will get infected, its if I download stuff that is infected and choose willingly to run it when I get infected. Hasn't happened yet, but then again most viruses don't work on what I am running
But, to my P2P arsenal, I currently have added newsgroups to my use of torrents which I think I previously stated. They are a pretty sweet method of sharing files, news, discussions, whatever, and many isps provide them fot free
No, I don't do any P2P. I was an addicted user of many P2P's, the last one was winMX and after 6 months I lost my fever and never did it again.
I have used many P2P/torrent clients, for testing of a firewalls ability for many connections (I download free distro etc). So I could say, "Yes" I P2P. The purpose of which needs to be defined.
Does torrenting count I find it MUCH safer then stuff like limewire. Plus Avast's P2P scanner makes me feel MUCH safer.
Yes BitTorrent is p2p.
As far as I know, it is impossible to get infected via torrents, unless a user launch downloaded files before checking them, because they can not open themself, but this applies to almost everything like email attachments, files downloaded from ftp, http and ect. Also noone can access other files than just those active in torrent, unlike in p2ps using windows file sharing, which could be spoofed in some scenarios. The problem is an allowed inbound port, which could be used by an overflow in that p2p aplication or by an already active mallware listening on the same port (eg. allowed in a router). But bittorent work without the allowed inbound port as well based on the network connection, but then the download speed will decrease about 2 times, since TCP can be activated only by the user's PC. So it is allways the same, comfortability (greater speed and risk) vs security (lower speed and risk).
I do not know limeware too much, but for me a torrent file is something like a MD5 hash, which ensures, that only proper files are downloaded and shared unlike in limeware, where I guess, that files are shared without anything marking them, they are just part of a database, but that does not mean, that limeware is less safer, it is just different. Sorry for a long post.
Trying BitTorrent 6 (usually Azureus) with DNA (Delivery Network Accelerator)
I tried it briefly the other week. Uninstalled in 5 mins because of that dna.exe .
Starts with Windows and connects out if i remember correctly (?).
Sure i could uninstall just that, as i found out later, but personally i'll never try BT again. Azureus or something better for me.
LimeWire extremely rarely.
I mostly use Demonoid(.com) now, which is a torrent tracker.