did you find w8.1 64 sluggish to load program then w7?

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  1. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

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    hi

    did you find w8.1 64 sluggish to load program then w7?

    programs like photoshop , dxo , openoffice and so on

    windows 7 64 seems more snappy and fast

    can you share your experience?

    honestly i did not update every hotfix
    thanks
     
  2. funkydude

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    You should, there are a lot of software compatibility patches.

    There's a few variables that can affect how fast your OS runs. For example if you're dual-booting on an HDD, the second OS will be slower due to being further out on the disk.
     
  3. mantra

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    i have 2 ssds
    in one ssd i have w7
    on the second ssd i have w8.1
    when i want to boot w8.1 i use the bios
    i removed the drive letters , so w7 should not see w8.1 and w8.1 w7

    is there list of software compatibility patches?
    in my case photoshop cc run faster slower then w7 because there is a lag
     
  4. DoctorPC

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    I have found 8.1 to be snappier in all aspects, including program load. I'd fully update all programs, drivers, and Windows updates, then give it a couple of reboots, and see how it goes. The only time I found 8.1 sluggish was before fully updating it. Even my wifes 5 year old laptop is much faster on 8.1 - even faster than Ubuntu.

    Win8.1 will/should be faster in almost every metric. For 3D/Gaming, 8.1 offers 'smoother' experiences, but sometimes slightly less FPS. For example the latest Thief game runs very smooth under 8.1 but has odd 'stuttering' under 7..
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO7_xFToEAI

    Overall performance, including browsing speed is quite a bit faster under 8.1.
    http://www.techspot.com/review/561-windows8-vs-windows7/page2.html
     
  5. mantra

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    but i google it and seems many users find it sluggish
     
  6. taleblou

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    I found win 8 and 8.1 very incompatible with a lot of 3rd party apps. Specially firewalls and security suites. Windows 7 rules in that sense.
     
  7. Brian K

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    funkydude,

    In theory, yes. Benchmarks. But I have a 640 GB HD with 30 OS in primary partitions and OS on the outside of the drive perform no differently than those at the inner section of the drive.
     
  8. mantra

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    hi
    i use eset smart sucurity 7 ,is it in the list?
     
  9. mantra

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    hi
    i have a ssd with w7 and another ssd with w8.1

    i don't want to install a boot manager, when i want to boot 8.1 i use the bios

    could be my case a problem?
     
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    In the tests I made with programs like Firefox and LibreOffice I didin't see any serious differences between them. It is true that, for instance, at the first run Firefox was starting faster on Win7, but the difference was small. Overall, I'd say that there is no improvement in Win8 in this regard, but there is no slowdown either.
     
  11. Brian K

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    Try this test. Disconnect the Win7 SSD. Connect the Win8.1 SSD to SATA port 1 (I assume it is a SATA III port). How does Win8.1 perform?
     
  12. mantra

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    why should i do it?

    i noticed that w8.1 at boot it's fast loading programs , but after 2 minutes(i used process hacker) w8.1 starts delay process like Intel(R) Rapid Storage Technology Intel Rapid Start Technology
    IAStorDataSvc Intel(R) Dynamic Application Loader Host Interface Intel(R) Local Management Service (IAStorDataMgrSvc.exe/ Jhi_service.exe/LMS.exe) and with these process w8.1 become more sluggish then w7
     
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  13. Night_Raven

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    Actually it's the other way round: the security suites and firewalls are incompatible with Windows 8/8.1. Just because the author of a program has written bad code or hasn't tested his code whether it works correctly on the newer OS is not Windows's fault.

    To answer OP's question: no, I haven't. I found Windows 8.1 to be more responsive than Windows 7. The difference isn't huge but it's there.
     
  14. mantra

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    :-*
    do you have the same drivers installed like me?
    thanks
     
  15. mantra

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    so may i know which secuity program do you use under w8.1?
    thanks
     
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    Of course you may. I use Sandboxie. I am having an issue with it and Skype but I'm hoping the new owners will get things sorted out in the near future. Otherwise I might have to consider alternative security applications, althought that would be difficult as my standards are high and few other programs would fulfill them, if any.
     
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    I use ESS7. I do not see any issue with 8.1.

    Any reason behind not applying all the patches using windows update?
    Usually there are 3rd party compatibility improvements are applied to 8.1 with tuesday patches. I will see if i can get you the list of patch ids which improves windows 8.1 usage, after i go home.

    And i am now waiting for update 1 feature pack for better integration of metro with desktop. :)

    Thanks, venkat.
     
  18. WSFuser

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    You need to try it for yourself. Just because a random user finds software XYZ to be sluggish on their computer doesn't mean it will be the same with your computer.

    FWIW, I don't see a discernible difference between Windows 7 and 8 in regards to speed. All my programs run more or less the same.
     
  19. Mrkvonic

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    I don't use them on the same hardware to tell. But for me, pretty much all Windows always perform the same. I always use mid-high hardware.

    With the 8.1 I have on an ultrabook, it's less powerful than my typical buys, and I think it's slower because of that, but not due to any inherent problems with the system. Except that it is horribly designed and all that.

    Mrk
     
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    In my experience Windows 8 Apps (not Windows Desktop apps) are really slow to start.
     
  21. Robin A.

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    In general, I don´t find Win 8.1 noticeably faster or slower than 7. But there are exceptions. For example, in my experience the cleaning of the disk using Windows Disk Cleaner is very slow in 8.1. It can take 30 min or more. In 7, it takes less than 5 min.
     
  22. harsha_mic

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    For me, cold start is little slower. But resuming from suspend state is like minimize and maximize...
    Not all the apps are worth using. But few apps, to do basic tasks like Checking/replying Mails, watching videos are definitely worth using it.
     
  23. taleblou

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    I have not tried it on win 8 yet. Those security suites I tried were comodo, AVG, panda, AVAST, Secureaplus and firewalls.
     
  24. taleblou

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    Right now I have not found any security suites that run fine under win 8.1 except 360 internet security (does not have a firewall).
     
  25. DoctorPC

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    Uhh.. I've tried, or deployed at least 9 security suites under 8.1, and all of them ran just fine.

    Webroot, Avira, BullGuard, F-Secure, NOD32, Panda, Bit Defender, Avast, no problems with any of them, that is any issue they don't already have in Win7. I just deployed Bullguard earlier in the week for a client on 11 machines, absolutely no issues.

    Some serious FUD being spread here.
     
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