Desktop PC for programming

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  1. ams963

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    Hi,

    I want to get a desktop pc for programming. I am studying so I do not know what I might need in the future. I am on a tight budget and have little room to wiggle.

    Below is my intended setup (Updated with suggestions from all the wonderful and helpful friends here). Any more suggestions?

    Intel
    11th Gen Rocket Lake
    Core i5 11400 Desktop
    Processor

    Asus PRIME H510M-A
    Wi-Fi DDR4 Motherboard

    2x Lexar 8GB DDR4
    3200MHz Desktop RAM

    Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 512GB M.2 2280 PCIe SSD

    Deepcool MATREXX
    30 Mini Tower Black
    ATX Gaming Casing

    Gigabyte GP-P450B
    450W Non Moduler 80
    Plus Bronze Certified
    PSU

    LG 22MK600M 21.5
    Inch Full HD IPS
    Monitor (HDMI 2,
    VGA)

    Logitech MK275 Black-Blue Wireless Keyboard & Mouse Combo
     
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    I got to ask. Why not a laptop & what is your budget?
     
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    I want to get a desktop because I am at my home 98% of the time. I have no use of a laptop's mobility anymore and my neck and eyes hurt from all the staring down on a small screen. Of course I could get a monitor and a laptop but that would cost me more and since I am near a wall socket all the time then why not a desktop. Building a desktop is cheaper. My budget is tk. 57625 which is around $669. Components would cost a little more here after tax and profit of the importer and retail store. You can get an idea about my budget from the parts I chose, it has filled up my budget about $669 after currency conversion.
     
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    I can't imagine that the included PSU will suffice.
     
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    Hello @ams963

    Please do not forget to budget for frequent backups using reliable external storage.
     
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    How much watts would I need? I will not game on this pc. Should I lower ram from 16 to 8 gb and get a psu with the change?
     
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    Thanks for reminding. The cost just keeps adding on. I will try to add an external hdd next year. I will try to make do with the extra old hdd from my old laptop.
     
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    Idk. But I can tell you this. A bad (low specs & or faulty etc) PSU can cause permanent problems even after replacement. All sorts of problems that can be difficult (to impossible) to identify & can be intermittent at that. And for me intermittent problems are the most aggravating. In short I would not even once run a PC with the "wrong" PSU.
     
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    Thank you very much. I will get a psu. I have decided on my final setup. I have updated the setup in my initial post. Any final suggestions? Will the screen size be okay? Should I go for a LG 24 inch instead or should stay with the 21.5 inch for now and maybe get a second monitor in the future to pair up? Do I need a cpu cooler? Will the stock cooler be enough? Should I go for a SSD?
     
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    Agreed with these points. A SSD will use less power too so that would help. Unless I missed it I saw no mention of a graphics card. If this uses integrated graphics you shouldn't need an excessive amount of power. Quality is worth more than extra watts. Find a good one with enough watts rather than a lesser quality one with more.
     
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    Program in Java plus IDE plus web browser for a program that processed and visualized 90 MB of data took mine 6GB of Ram easily and crashed computer with disabled SWAP. With Swap enabled it didn’t crash but it run somewhat slow.
    For some combination of languages and tools I would recommend 16GB of ram, but 8 will be enough just prepare that somehow it would fallback to swapping memory to mass storage(ssd).
    I also recommend buying SSD instead of HDD.
     
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    Thank you for the suggestions. I have decided to get 16gb ram, a 512 m.2 pcie ssd and a combo of wireless keyboard and mouse. I thought if I am stretching my budget why not go a bit further and get wireless keyboard and mouse. Convenience is also important.;) Any further suggestions is always welcome.
     
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    Great choice.
     
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    That keyboard lacks a dedicated numeric keypad, won't it make a difference?
     
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    Which PSU are you getting?
     
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    When you guys stressed the importance of a ssd, I looked at some and they were called sata III. I looked further and found there were these things called m.2 pcie ssds on the website of my local store. I googled and woah! The speeds were insane. A more expensive ssd would offer better durability as I read on some sites but this was as far as I could stretch my budget. At least the Adata ssd offers 5 yrs warranty.
     
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    You are right. I am so used to a compact laptop keyboard without num pad, I forgot about it and got excited over going wireless. Now I will be getting the Logitech MK275 Black-Blue Wireless Keyboard & Mouse Combo.
     
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    Gigabyte GP-P450B 450W Non Moduler 80 Plus Bronze Certified PSU.
     
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    Should I get Core i5 11500 instead of the 11400? I will have to sacrifice the convenience of wireless keyboard and mouse plus add some more or downsize ram to 8gb.
     
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    I wouldn't make that trade. I don't think in every day use you would be able to tell the difference between those CPUs but you would miss the wireless keyboard and mouse.
     
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    Ah I see. 11400 it is then. Thank you. Should I get a cpu cooler or would the stock cooler do for now?
     
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    You gonna overclock? If not don't waste the money.
     
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    Got it. I have a choice between two ssds with same price, storage and brand. Only differences are one has RGB and AES encryption. I am getting the one without those features. That one has more Random Write IOPS though. I do not care or like RGB. Is AES important enough to get the ssd with rgb? Also the the pair of ram I chose, the Lexar 8GB DDR4 3200MHz is udimm and the motherboard says dimm. Will there be a problem with compatibility?
     
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    Encryption is up to you. I don't bother. Too complicated if I need to access the data offline.

    It looks like udimm is just unregistered. I've never seen a consumer class mobo that used registered memory. Though I was unfamiliar with the term until I googled it just now. Hopefully there isn't more to it than that but someone more familiar will chime in if I am mistaken.
     
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