Deep Freeze by Faronics

Discussion in 'sandboxing & virtualization' started by EASTER, Feb 14, 2021.

  1. imdb

    imdb Registered Member

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    no problem. license expired and i didn't renew it. it's a great piece of sw. very solid. i just don't need it anymore.
     
  2. caspian

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    I have been using SD for years and love it. But I have always wondered about what freedoms a person in China would have with regard to software. Whoever created it is obviously very talented. I assume that if it was phoning home or something like that someone would have noticed. I also have to wonder too, if SD is not used by many people would there really be much interest in it? By a government etc?
     
  3. Moose World

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    Hi,

    With Shadow Defender, here are the things that worry me below.

    * Software compatibility with for example with other security software's. For example,
    Panda and Webroot. umm..... what other? I use Kaspersky Security Cloud, Kaspersky
    Firewall may not act well. Not sure....at this point.

    * Lack of updates and/or Tony disappearing for long periods of time. 2 years, - Umm...
    * And fastboot/hybrid boot with Shadow Defender, worrying if the windows system going to boot.
    * And I am sure you remember, update looping with Shadow Defender.
    boot and/or Blue Screen of Dead. This is the main one for me........And Windows updates
    causing problems.....


    If all the problems from above been fix......I would use Shadow Defender in a heart beat.....

    Updates below:
    https://www.shadowdefender.com/images/new.gif Aug. 2, 2020
    Version 1.5.0.726 is released.
    https://www.shadowdefender.com/images/old.gif May. 8, 2018
    Version 1.4.0.680 is released.
    https://www.shadowdefender.com/images/old.gif Apr. 11, 2017
    Version 1.4.0.665 is released.
    https://www.shadowdefender.com/images/old.gif Aug. 5, 2016
    Version 1.4.0.648 is released.
     
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  4. EASTER

    EASTER Registered Member

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    My experience with it as well. And that was when like I mentioned earlier in this thread/topic, was years ago. For a solid static virtualize software it was solid and nothing ever fudged it no matter the going malware at the time which easily disrupted other PC's despite having AV protections.
     
  5. Arcanez

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    if only the standard version had a "commit files to original system"-feature similar to shadow defender. I can understand that the enterprise version should not have such a feature but for private home users it would be very convenient if at least the standard version of deepfreeze offered such a functionality.
     
  6. Peter 123

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    Indeed. But I have the impression that such users are not at all their target group.

    They offer something to keep files but it sounds quite complicated (at least to me):

    https://www.faronics.com/products/deep-freeze/standard
    (tab "Features and Specs")

    PS:
    O.k. the method with the ThawSpace is a little bit cumbersome but after taking a short look into the User Guide, I think it is understandable how it works. See the description in the "Deep Freeze Standard User Guide", pages 15+16: https://www.faronics.com/assets/DFS_Manual.pdf
    Here an excerpt:
    And creating the ThawSpace obviously is something you have to do only one time as they write:
     
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  7. Arcanez

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    yea I know that dataigloo exists, however the ways offered by faronics to maintain data on a frozen pc is not very intuitive. It would be better if there was a context menu function by right clicking on a folder or file to commit the folders or files to the real system. They could even lock this function in a way that a master password is needed to commit files to the orginial volume. Technically it would be really easy to implement such a function. Though I guess it will never happen since deepfreeze is a more enterprise oriented software...
     
  8. Gaddster

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    Deep Freeze is hardcore as it gets and Faronics for years have never changed a winning formula, which I have never EVER seen Deep Freeze advertised for home users at all, so adding features like what you see in Shadow Defender would make the software vulnerable to abuse in their customers environment and that is a massive no-no.

    It is either ON or OFF. That is proper protection and Faronics would be insane to change that......I personally use Shadow Defender (for one reason. I use hibernation) but have seen Deep Freeze first hand in a college full of students, trashing computers running Windows and I wouldn't give them any sort of leeway to cause permanent damage to the OS.
     
  9. EASTER

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    Shadow Defender offers such a commit feature. Although I haven't tested it but the few times I did to make sure, it did indeed save the files via right click menu in the program.

    It's been quite awhile when I had a series of PC's all linked together and Faronic's sure worked well like Loctite.
    These days Shadow Defender is my go-to but Deep Freeze is held the banner many years running on secure virtualization
     
  10. Arcanez

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    I completely wiped my computer and reinstalled windows on a separate, small partition of my m.2 drive which is kept frozen. The rest of that same drive is declared to be thawspace and all other drives in the computer are in a thawed state as well. That way there is enough space for data to persist. If certain programs in C:/programfiles/ need to update regularly, those folders can be redirected to a thawed partition. It needs a certain setup beforehand in order to use Deepfreeze effectively. That way I can decide if I want to keep a program upon a restart or not. When installed on the C drive it will be wiped upon a reboot. If installed on a thawed partition at least the program files will remain and most programs will run regardless. Registry entries and everything else that comes with any program installation will be wiped as well.

    Will run this setups for a while and see how it works out.

    Windows Defender's Ransomware Protection will just deny write access on all thawed partions except for some predefined programs.
     
  11. Lagavulin16

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    IMO, one of the best security app's I've ever been introduced to here on Wilders is Shadow Defender. Pulled the plug there and switched to Faronics Deep Freeze with the best results one could wish for.
    It was all about update issues, in spite of SD's more attractive user GI and the option to save files. So, for anyone on the lookout for an app that wants to reboot back to ground zero--- Deep Freeze should ultimately be the end all that gets all.
     
  12. EASTER

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    As excellent, efficient, and reliable as Shadow Defender is been for years I totally still agree if you can figure out an equally reliable way to commit files you like to retain while Deep Freeze is in stationary phase, Faronic's DP is a rock solid isolation program that is never been to my knowledge ever broken through it's containment field.

    One might even go as far as saying Comodo's FW Containment is every bit on the same level when trapping everything within a session then emptying it although no reboot is needed. But Faronic's is a dedicated virtualizer where Comodo is more comprehensive and widely touted as an active desktop security solution on the go.
     
  13. Arcanez

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    quick tip for anyone also using Faronics Anti-Executable: Before installing Anti-Executable I suggest to make a folder junction point either manually or by using Faronics DataIgloo for "C:\ProgramData\AE" to any thawed partition you wish. This way the config files for Anti-Executable remain and can be updated throughout a frozen session using Deepfreeze. Otherwise the Whitelist would get reverted back every time the system restarts. I like it so that I can keep updating my whitelist in Anti-Executable no matter if Deepfreeze is in frozen or thawed state.
     
  14. EASTER

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    Bright Idea! I must admit that I do still miss Faronic's Anti-Ex Program.
    When I did have it the program was sparkling tight and reliable as they come.
     
  15. Space Ghost

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    All Faronics Products: https://www.faronics.com/all-products?redirect
     
  16. EASTER

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    Probably don't need to but am considering installing Deep Freeze to the (currently) only Windows 10 rig to lock it down TIGHT as i malware the fire out of testing's to research and category those foul Windows Attacker Interruption junk- It's already backed up regularly with images so we'll see if DF can fend off the worse of the worse or if there's a chink in the armor or not. MFT wipers and distorters i would assume will be the highest gain any penetrator could achieve IF they can evade Deep Freezes separate Lockdown.
     
  17. Cache

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    As I stated earlier, I am happy enough with Shadow Defender, not least because having paid around $30 years ago, I have not had to pay anything since. Looking at the Deep Freeze website they do not make it clear what the cost is. Could someone kindly let us know.
     
  18. cruelsister

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    Deep Freeze Standard for Windows with 1 Year Maintenance is 48USD.
     
  19. Space Ghost

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    Faronics Deep Freeze Standard Subscription License for 3 Years €46.13 :isay:
     
  20. cruelsister

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    Odd that in Europe the subscription is 3 years, but in the US and Canada is 1 year.
     
  21. imdb

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    hey, sis. there's also a perpetual license version. :isay:
     
  22. Izettso

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    Shadow Defender works with Windows 11. The Faronics Deep Freeze website doesn't mention Windows 11 as compatible with their product.
     
  23. LoneWolf

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    Windows 11 is supported.
     

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  24. Izettso

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    Thank you for pointing it out. I stand corrected, but I simply cannot see a reference to Windows 11 on their website.
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