Decent Processors in a New PC

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  1. RCGuy

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    I recently started another thread that shows that I am looking to find a good deal on a new computer in order to replace my Windows XP computer that I have:

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=361141

    But I wanted to ask the forum's opinion about decent processors(CPUs) on the market.

    Also, the main processor that I am interested in for a new computer is the Intel Core i3. Plus, for what I generally use my computer for(e.g. surfing and researching, email, message boards, internet radio, youtube videos, and downloading music), I don't feel that I need anything more powerful than an i3. Plus, I am not interested in paying the extra expensive of a more powerful processor.

    However, I've seen some other processors that I don't know that much about and have tried to do research on them(which can become tedious and a bit confusing since I'm not an expert on processors), therefore, I was wondering if members of the forum could me feedback on these processors and processors in general.

    But here are the processors that I am inquiring about(I've eliminated some other ones from my own research):

    AMD E1-2500 Accelerated Processor

    Intel® Pentium® processor G3220

    AMD A4-5000 Quad-Core Processor

    Also, what is your opinion on getting a processor that wlll make your computer future-ready because of all the stuff that they are pumping into websites(e.g. facebook, twitter, googleapis.com, google-analytics.com and other google sites, doubleclick.net, and the list goes on and on)?

    Thank you in advance for your replies.
     
  2. RCGuy

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    Also, I am interested in buying a new desktop computer.
     
  3. WSFuser

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    I would avoid the very low power processors like AMD's E-series or Intel's Atom. They tend to be rather slow. For buying a new PC, I would set a budget and then just try to find the best processor that fits within that budget.

    As for future proofing, it's a game you cannot win. The best advice is to just buy a computer that fits your needs when you need it. If it really bothers you though, see if you can get a quad-core processor. Intel's are typically more expensive but you should be able to find an AMD A8-xxxx at much more reasonable prices.
     
  4. pandlouk

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    The new Intel NUC D34010WYKH seems perfect for your needs.

    Panagiotis
     
  5. RCGuy

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    Thanks, WSFuser. That should be helpful information.

    Also, do you or anyone else have an opinion on the Intel Pentium-G3220 processor?
     
  6. RCGuy

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    My God, what is that? Is that an actual computer? I have never seen a computer that looks like that before in all my life.

    How big is it? Also, do you know how much it costs?
     
  7. WSFuser

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    The latest Haswell-based Celeron/Pentium processors are no slouch. They're good for a basic computer.
    They're approximately 4 by 4 inches. It can fit roughly in your hand.

    Price-wise, they are between $300-$400USD. Some older models can be had for around $200. Also if you buy a barebone kit, remember you still need storage, RAM, and an OS.
     
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    If you don't plan to game at all Intel's Haswell is the way to go.
     
  9. RCGuy

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    Thanks, Wroll, and WSFuser.
     
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    I would build your own. No other way to do it. Haswell, Ivy or bust.
     
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  12. pandlouk

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    Intel started to produce/sell the NUC line in march 2013 if I am not mistaken. The logic is to have mini powerfull enough pcs for workstations, home theater pcs, etc., that can rival mac-minis.
    With the i3 haswell intel makes
    BOXD34010WYK1, BOXD34010WYK2 and BOXD34010WYK3 (no support for internal 2.5-inch HDD or SSD)
    and
    BOXD34010WYKH1, BOXD34010WYKH2 and BOXD34010WYKH3 (with support for internal 2.5-inch HDD or SSD)
    1=type B power cord
    2=type E power cord
    3=type G power cord
    to check the size watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJUzUlGUNNE

    The one with internal support for 2.5 hdd/ssd costs 289.99$
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HOJAVDG

    and yes it will work with external usb dvd/cd writer.

    Panagiotis
     
  13. Wroll

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    The CPU on that NUC is slower than a CPU released 5-6 years ago.
     
  14. pandlouk

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    Sure, but for a cpu with max tdp of 15w is impressive.

    Panagiotis
     
  15. Wroll

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    Maybe for a tablet not a desktop.
     
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    Source? I didn't realize Intel mobile Haswell CPUs were that bad.
     
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    It's a mobile CPU. They're always years slower than their desktop counterparts. You can game with an q6600 any game you have today. With that CPU, I don't think you can bother with it on gaming.
     
  18. pandlouk

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    RCGuy did not say that he was into gaming; for everything else that he want's that CPU is more than enough.
    If one want's a more powerfull system there is also BOXD54250WYKH1 which is faster.
    http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1038&cmp[]=2012&cmp[]=1944
    as for gaming check here
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBnJy1ejj88

    Panagiotis
     
  19. Wroll

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    With that logic in mind he could get a smartphone or a smarttv. Anyway, if you want to throw money away get that NUC thing, that's my opinion.
     
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    With your logic he could buy an xbox or a ps4 and blow away the fastest cpus in gaming.
    IMO, throwing money is buying something that one won't take fully advantage from it...

    Panagiotis
     
  21. luciddream

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    Like I stated in the other thread, I don't think the market is conducive toward buying new PC's right now. IMO now is the time to get a generation or 3 (lol) old for pennies on the dollar... more than capable of doing those tasks until 2020 and possibly beyond, and then reassess the situation. Unless you just feel like you need/want to have a new toy. Windows 7 & 8 seem to both run perfectly fine on just a Core2Duo CPU in the low-mid 2.0's. And 4 GB of RAM. You can find used boxes with specs like these for around $100 on EBay with some good timing. No more than $150 anyway.

    Like I said I got two. The CPU's Core2Duo's, E8300 & E8400 (2.83 & 3.0 ghz). And both supported hardware virtualization like I wanted as well, vt-x & vt-d. And trusted execution technology. Just a few integrated features I was looking for, and they happened to have them all... the only Core2Duo branch that did (E8K's). I was stalking EBay for awhile until I found them with exactly the chips I wanted.

    Just food for thought... as far as current gen goes I do agree that Core i3's are the best bang for your buck. Unless you're running resource intensive apps/games you probably won't notice a difference. Based on what you say you're using the box for...
     
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    Hi RCGuy,

    The very first thing to do when researching a new computer is to determine your needs.

    In this respect, here are my needs, as an example which are very specific to my interests and background + the desire to explore hardware supported VMs and security:

    1) In order to allow full hardware support for the Qubes OS, it must have hardware support for for the Xen hypervisor

    2) Since I have a multiprocessor background, it must be quad-core or more and Haswell Intel chip (at 22nm) given currently available technology.

    3) A Linux compatible laptop

    To insure these requirements, I am able to check the Intel website at ark.intel.com and search for these requirements, and, otherwise search for "Linux Laptops" for additional retail websites.

    -- Tom
     
  23. Wroll

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    Blow away like what? We already have hardware better than what's on those consoles. An I5 Haswell will beat both consoles on CPU benchmarks.
     
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    I'm addressing OPs original question & computing needs for NEW hardware. Not the morphed discussion.

    Desktop right. What's the budget? Are you going to reuse monitor, kb & mouse?

    You'll find less costly hardware in laptops. And you can connect it to your peripherals.

    Otherwise you'll pay at least $200 MORE & overspending for your needs for desktop hardware. Believe it.
     
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    So what did OP decide?
     
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