DDS10 Build 2160 for Vista

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  1. ocostich

    ocostich Registered Member

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    Anyone tried this? The history says it's for Vista but the product requirements for DDS10 still say XP.
     
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    My guess is that the Site Editorial team haven't caught up with the Development/Support team yet.

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  3. ocostich

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    I installed it and it seems to do no damage. On the other hand it won't expand partions into unallocated space. I have two partitions with some unallocated space between them. Neither partition can be expanded into the unallocated space.

    OTOH, the Vista Disk Manager won't either. What does DDS10 do for Vista that the native disk management won't do?
     
  4. GeoM48

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    I installed DDS10 Build 2160 for Vista.
    The information says it Supports Vista yet when you make a bootable Disk, the information says it is Version 2117.
    Possibly Acronis can give us a reason for this.
    I assume v2117 does not support Vista and that is the reason for the v2160 Update.
     
  5. kenol1

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    Received a reply from Acronis support, dated 03/03/07. Among other things it states "We'd like to inform you that Acronis Disk Director Suite 10.0 currently does not support Windows Vista......Finally, we have no information about when the support of Windows Vista is implemented into Acronis Disk Director Suite, but we are currently working on it." Evidently this includes version 2160.

    Use with caution!:doubt:
     
  6. markusr99208

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    OUCH, I JUST BOUGHT DDS10 for Vista. It was what Acronis recommended me to purchase. I guess I can revert credit card charges. They have yet to respond to my emails.

    -MarkusR:mad:
     
  7. jeremyotten

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    Build 2160 is Vista compatible. Is also in the online manual. Vista (All editions)

    When I created the Bootcd all build where also 2160 so :-0

    ENJOY!@!
     
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    Hmm. Something strange going on here. o_O Installed Build 2160 over 2117 and found that, whilst the Windows version updated to 2160, the new bootable rescue CD remained at Build 2117. o_O

    Uninstalled DDS 10, deleted the remaining files in the DDS program files directory, rebooted and then reinstalled the latest build. This time a new rescue CD was correctly created as Build 2160.

    Seems the install routine is somewhat unpredictable (as is also the case with True Image).

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  9. markusr99208

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    So what is the conclusion here? I just purchased DDS10 and want to use the boot manager. How do I do this for Vista?

    -Markus
     
  10. K0LO

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    There seems to be a lot of confusion about whether Acronis Disk Director is compatible with Vista, with some people even claiming that it should never be used to format a Vista partition or you risk major data corruption.

    The release notes with build 2160 claim that it's Vista compatible but an earlier post in this thread claims that Acronis Technical Support told him that it is not. What is the real story here?

    At the moment I am very reluctant to experiment with the new build on my Vista machine and I'll bet many others feel the same. A short article from Acronis would go a long way towards clearing up any misconceptions about DiskDirector and Vista compatibility.

    Menorcaman, since you seem to have a good line of communication with the Acronis development team, can you find out the official story and post it here?
     
  11. MudCrab

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    I just installed build 2,160 over 2,117 and Acronis Media Builder still shows DD build as 2,117, but when I boot the rescue cd, the build in DD shows 2,160. I should add that when I run DD in Windows it shows the correct build.

    Apparently the Media Builder program doesn't update on an updated install?

    On Vista I installed build 2,160 clean (no previous version) and the Media Builder shows the correct build.
     
  12. MarkLederer

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    FYI - I downloaded and installed the "trial" version of DDS10 and loaded it onto my Vista Ultimate. When I attempted to delete the Dell-created 10G partition and resize the "last" partition which has the OS, it said I had to purchase the full version. I was reluctant having already had one bad partition experience with 3rd party software and Vista so I uninstalled it. When my system rebooted, the OS was corrupted. I had to use the Vista install DVD and repair my system using system restore (fortunately created a restore point right before I installed the Acronis trial). With now TWO bad parition experiences, I would wait until Acronis actually posts the information regardin VISTA support.
    Mark L.
     
  13. Menorcaman

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    Hello Mark,

    Believe it or not, I have no more clout with Acronis than any other long-time user. :) Nevertheless, I've PM'd Acronis Support and requested that one of their team visit this thread with a view to clearing up the confusion regarding Vista compatibility.

    Regards
     
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    The new build is still not 100% Vista compatible. You can't use DD10 to create a new partition and then install Vista into that partition. The install gets to the point of the first reboot without any problem. However, the first reboot fails to boot. It stops at the Press any key to boot from the CD/DVD screen. Even rebooting from the CD and running a Startup Repair fails to produce a bootable system. I didn't try forcing Vista to reformat the new partition that DD10 had created prior to the install. Maybe that would help. I'll let somebody else try that. BTW, this is the same thing that happenes using build 2117.

    I did install DD10 into an existing Vista system and use it to resize the system partition. I did it from within Vista and from the Acronis Recovery CD. It seemed to work. I played around with the resized system for 10-15 minutes and didn't experience any instability. The problem was that I just didn't trust it, so I restored a former system backup. Others have repoted in the past that system corruption didn't show up until a few days later. The bottom line is I still don't trust it until they get it to install Vista properly.

    As far as the installer goes, it's poor. You need to delete all the files from C:\Program Files\Acronis\Acronis Disk Director before you do the install. If you don't, the media builder config files will not be overwritten and remain at build 2117. After a successful install all the files in C:\Program Files\Acronis\Acronis Disk Director should have file dates of 2/22/2007. You need to supply the serial number/s even if you install on top of the existing build. This is probably because they now show the serial number on the Help/About screen.

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    Curiousity got the better of me. I tryed another Vista install to a DD10 created partition. This time I forced Vista to format the existing partition. The install worked! I don't know exactly what Vista did when it did the format. I don't know if it just reformatted or deleted and recreated the partition. In any case it worked.
     
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    The post about the patch installer not being great is true - I installed it and it still had the old build #. However, after uninstalling and then reinstalling, I now am running build 2160 under Vista. I merged my main C: partition with a smaller one with no problem. I will post if any issues arise, but I think we're good for now.

    -Chad
     
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    Workaround for those who have already installed Build 2160 yet the Bootable Media Builder app still lists Build 2117:

    1. Delete the contents of C:\Program Files\Acronis\Disk\Acronis Disk Director
    2. Run the installer again
    3. When offered a choice of what to do, choose "Modify"
    4. Make sure that "Acronis Rescue Media Builder" is set to "Will be installed on local hard drive"
    5. Choose "Next" and let the installer finish.

    This procedure eliminates the need to uninstall, reinstall, and re-enter your product ID number.
     
  18. K0LO

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    NTFS Version

    Curiosity got the better of me also. I've read in several places that Vista must be using a different version of the NTFS file system, making it incompatible with some partitioning tools (like DD10).

    You can determine the NTFS version with the following command:
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    fsutil fsinfo ntfsinfo C:
    On my XP machine, the NTFS version is 3.1
    On my Vista PC, the NTFS version is also 3.1

    So evidently, Vista uses the same version of the NTFS filesystem.
     
  19. cortez

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    Several sites mention this 'new' NTFS as "TxF" a.k.a. "TRANSACTIONAL NTFS" as being new to VISTA, but Microsoft support articles simple state that a VISTA partition must be formatted as NTFS. "VISTA NTFS" search in their knowledge base spit out 7 articles which seem to point to a small number of problems which DD10 users may run into: 912595, 927841, 926069, 927520, 929662, 931277, & 931703. IT looks like the beta version of VISTA lives on. XP has been in perpetual 'beta' and it seems like Vista will be as well. I quess we must choose our own poison. ( At least things won't get dull for a long time to come!)
     
  20. Acronis Support

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    Hello everyone,

    Thank you for choosing Acronis Partition and Disk Managing Software.

    We are sorry for the delayed response.

    First of all, please note that the latest build 2160 of Acronis Disk Director Suite 10.0 does provide support for Windows Vista.

    Please note that the issue with incomplete information about Acronis Disk Director Suite 10.0 and Windows Vista is know and will be fixed as soon as possible. Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience.

    I have also forwarded the information about the issue with Acronis Disk Director Bootable Media Builder to our Development Team and will let you know the results of their investigation as soon as possible. As this can take a few days, I apologize in advance for any delay with the response.

    Currently, please follow the instructions provided below to install the latest build 2160 of Acronis Disk Director Suite 10.0:

    - completely uninstall Acronis Disk Director Suite 10.0 (via Start -> Control Panel -> Add or Remove Programs -> Acronis Disk Director Suite) from your system and reboot the computer;

    - carry out a clean installation of the latest build you have downloaded.

    Thank you.
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    Aleksandr Isakov
     
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    Hello MarkLederer,

    Thank you for your interest in Acronis Partition and Disk Managing Software.

    We are sorry for the delayed response.

    Please be aware that this is the limitation of trial version of Acronis Disk Director Suite 10.0. Using the trial version of Acronis Disk Director Suite 10.0 you will be able to create a "scenario" of the changes, which can be made but you will not be able to complete the operations. You will be able to create a small partition (~ 7,8 MBytes) both in Windows and in rescue mode.

    Therefore, in order to investigate the issue you have experienced please clarify the following:

    - Describe actions taken before the problem appears step-by-step.

    - Have you received any error messages? What exact error messages? When exactly have you received them?

    Please create Acronis Report as it is described in Acronis Help Post.

    Then submit a request for technical support. Attach all the collected files and information to your request along with the link to this thread. We will investigate the problem and try to provide you with a solution.

    Thank you.
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  22. jojom

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    Hello,
    are there plans to release an german version of DDS10 Build 2160?
    Until now, there is still Build 2117 available.

    Joe
     
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    Hello- I downloaded TI 10,build4940 and Disk Director 10,build 2160 to support my Vista based computer. I went throuhh all steps to build a partition via DD 10 using space from my c drive. After pressing the commit,DD 10 seemed to perform the necessary steps to build the partition and reboot. I opened TI 10 and attempted to create an image of drive c on L drive created on the hdd. Nothing happened. I opened DD 10 and there wasn't a L drive. I attempted this again and received the same results. I have been using these programs for a long time ad I am sure that I did it correctly. However,I did not find my L drive listed in TI 10 as I have with other builds.
    I am running Vista Premium on a HP d4790y machine with 2 GB memory,320 GB HDD,Intel duo 2.4 GHZ processor.I didnot get a chance to check TI 10's performance because DD 10 did not build a partition. However,I know something is wrong with DD 10. Thanks.
     
  25. K0LO

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    wardell1:

    This seems to happen frequently to a lot of people if you try to modify the main Windows partition (C in your case) while running Windows. It often succeeds if you reboot into the Acronis rescue version of DD 10 and carry out the operation from there.

    In your case, since you're running Vista, you can repartition using the tools in the Vista Disk Management console. First shrink your existing C partition (right-click on C and choose "Shrink"). Then create your new "L" partition in the resultant free space, format it with NTFS, and you should be good to go.
     
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