COVID-19 Could Provide Cover for Surveillance Expansion

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  1. Minimalist

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    I agree. They give advise from purely medical perspective and are ATM not worried about other possibly negative consequences of surveilance.
     
  2. Stefan Froberg

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    Heh, I know

    I will bet there will be no Olympics this year. It's just too early and this thing is still running wild out there.
    Maybe Japanese people just eat more healthy than westerners.

    Another thing that keep popping up from statistics (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/) is that
    Italy has lot's of deaths and it's easy to explain: Italy has one of the oldest population in Europe.
    This virus is especially fatal to old weak people that maybe already have some other base illness and those with respiratory disease like asthma (like me). But old or young, everybody should just play it cool and avoid contact with large groups.


    When I look all the pieces of facts: China did know about the virus in last November but only choose to report in January. The officials tried
    to censor the doctor that originally discovered it. The Wuhan Virus Lab that was specifically experimenting with bat coronaviruses and they even created chimera version (in that Nature 2015 article) it's all clear that this was some major f***up in the lab and the officials there are trying to censor it, spread misinformation or swift the blame (like the latests attacks against USA by the Chinese officials).

    EDIT:
    And for those state sponsored "scientists":

    "Lab coat does not make you a God, or immune to government propaganda"

    EDIT2:

    Even the rich people in China are not safe if speaking their mind of the goverment and of Xi particular. They just "vanish"

    (fetched throught startpage proxy):

    https://eu-browse.startpage.com/do/...44r6o&ekdata=f673e2d0593fcf2dbf0ca471b47eef62
     
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  3. mirimir

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    That is suspicious, I admit.

    But I bet that other countries were also experimenting with bat coronaviruses.

    About Italy, four members of an Italian family (in New Jersey) died after a dinner party [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51978164].

    It's my impression that Italians are extremely diverse genetically, but I guess that there could be ~isolated subpopulations withsusceptibility genes.

    I wonder whether anyone's looked for that in the data from Italy.
     
  4. Krusty

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    Coronavirus: Phone data could be used to enforce isolation rules
    https://www.news.com.au/technology/...s/news-story/0d46bf3ef1c62f950ff950fbc1cd36f4


     
  5. mood

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    Canada could track COVID-19 through cellphones: experts
    March 20, 2020
    https://thewirereport.ca/2020/03/20/canada-could-track-covid-19-through-cellphones-experts/
     
  6. Krusty

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    Americans told to avoid FBI Fitness app over location tracking fears
    https://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/americans-told-to-avoid-fbi-fitness-app-over-location-tracking-fears/news-story/2e753f7ac1bfa45d296bc39705ba9ae1
     
  7. mirimir

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    Huh? An FBI fitness app? Are people really that gullible?
     
  8. Krusty

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    The FBI must think so, and people being the sheep they are...

    I might be showing my age a little but I grew up in a time where there were no mobile phones, so no apps. We ran, swam, cycled, did push-ups, sit-ups, sparred, did weight training, all because we knew it made us fitter and stronger. We didn't need an app on a phone to pat us on the back to tell us we were doing well.

    ... Anyway, that's enough about me. :isay:
     
  9. mood

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    Poland is making quarantined citizens use a selfie app to prove they're staying inside
    March 23, 2020
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/corona...-isolation-social-distancing-police-patients/
     
  10. hawki

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    "Mobile phone industry explores worldwide tracking of users

    Talks about global data-sharing to counter coronavirus will raise privacy concerns

    The mobile phone industry has explored the creation of a global data-sharing system that could track individuals around the world, as part of an effort to curb the spread of Covid-19...

    ...a senior official at GSMA, an international standard-setting body for the mobile phone industry, held discussions with at least one company that is capable of tracking individuals globally through their mobile devices, and discussed the possible creation of a global data-sharing system..."

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...lores-worldwide-tracking-of-users-coronavirus
     
  11. xxJackxx

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    Yes, they are! I keep all app usage to a minimum.
     
  12. Minimalist

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    Facial Recognition Companies Profit From COVID-19 By Adding Thermal Imaging (UPDATED)
    March 24, 2020
    https://massprivatei.blogspot.com/2020/03/facial-recognition-companies-profit.html
     
  14. mood

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    European mobile carriers will share user location data to track coronavirus
    Eight major mobile carriers agreed to share customer location data with the European Commission
    March 25, 2020

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...share-user-location-data-to-track-coronavirus
     
  15. mood

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    ‘This could get Orwellian really fast’: COVID-19 could end privacy as we know it
    As countries scramble to respond to the pandemic, many have turned to surveillance in the name of public health
    March 26, 2020

    https://www.fastcompany.com/9048226...fast-covid-19-could-end-privacy-as-we-know-it
     
  16. mood

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    Snowden warns: The surveillance states we’re creating now will outlast the coronavirus
    Temporary security measures can soon become permanent
    March 25, 2020

    https://thenextweb.com/neural/2020/...re-creating-now-will-outlast-the-coronavirus/
     
  17. BriggsAndStratton

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    Who did not know this would follow ? This will probably be an expansion of surveillance brought fourth after 2001. The best time to pass these privacy invading measures is when people are scared. You scare people, then they are more likely to approve of these draconian measures....
     
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    Tech Tent: Hand over your virus data
    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52064616
     
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    https://www.irishtimes.com/business...ions-could-leave-a-dangerous-legacy-1.4211980
     
  21. Minimalist

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  22. mirimir

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    Well, smartphone technology pretty much already destroys privacy and digital rights ;)
     
  23. Krusty

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    Coronavirus spread can be tracked by phone but your privacy may suffer
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...ction-spread-mobile-phone-technology/12101960

     
  24. mood

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    Phone location data being used to track Americans amid coronavirus outbreak, report says
    The data is coming from companies in the mobile ad industry
    March 30, 2020

    https://www.cnet.com/news/phone-loc...ricans-amid-coronavirus-outbreak-report-says/
     
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    Germany aims to launch Singapore-style coronavirus app in weeks
    March 30, 2020
    https://in.reuters.com/article/heal...-style-coronavirus-app-in-weeks-idINKBN21H2AP
     
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