Cookies from XeroBank and regular browsers

Discussion in 'privacy problems' started by Jim Verard, Jul 2, 2007.

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  1. Jim Verard

    Jim Verard Registered Member

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    It's a simple question. I have XeroBank on my computer and before I already have both regular browsers, IE 6 and Firefox, using Windows XP. XeroBank uses Firefox browser, however, he's using a unique directory.

    My question is, where they store all cookies? Is there any chance of one of them mix up the cookies, by accident? I was thinking: Xerobank was a different browser, not connected by all means with my Firefox (which uses another language, by the way).

    When my old Torpark was updated (a critical update - 2.0.0.4 version from Firefox) - the regular Firefox which have nothing to do and was closed, was updated at the same time!!!!!

    This is very strange, because they were not running together. In fact, I never use both of them (and by accident, last month, I click on my regular FIREFOX tray while Torpark was running and all configurations from Torpark were erased, it was indeed a disaster, who force me to reinstall).

    The second time I noticed they were attached somehow was last week when I was saving some files using regular FIREFOX. While Xerobank was running (alone), I tried to save another files, and Xerobank remembers the path (the directory I was saving files for my regular browser).

    I have reasons to be concerned about the cookies (I know Xerobank doesn't show any cookies at all, they are erased after the browser is closed), but I still don't feel secure.
     
  2. llista

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    If Xerobank works like Torpark and can run from an USB drive you could install it inside an encrypted Truecrypt partition and all the cookies, history,etc... should be securely stored, you won't even need to delete them.

    I have used Opera-usb in this way and it works once you change the default settings because by default Opera-usb will store the cache outside the drive where it is running.
     
  3. SteveTX

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    xB Browser only stores cookies for the session in which the browser is open. When you close it, the cookies are deleted. Now regarding the remembering the folder, this is probably a function of exporer, the windows manager. However, I'm not versed enough in windows functioning to know that for sure.
     
  4. Jim Verard

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    That's a coincidence, I was looking Wikipedia few minutes ago before I came here to see your answer. Look at this reference:

    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XeroBank_Browser

    I was talking about the old Torpark version (2.0.0.3), and despite of some coincidences like both being updated at the same time, my first concern was that my regular Firefox browser could be a risk to my privacy, speaking of cookies and other possible unknown interferences between softwares (and like I said, when both were opened at the same time, Torpark configurations were reset).

    I didn't check this kind of conflict on Xerobank (because if resets XeroBank's configs I will have to reinstall and fill my passwords and forms all over again).

    My concern, a couple of months ago, was justified after this thread from your old and deleted board. Look what you said:

    Yahoo Sign and Seal thread

    roguesentry wrote:
    Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:35 pm

    arrakis/Torrify wrote:
    Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:37 pm

    roguesentry wrote:
    Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:40 pm

    arrakis/Torrify wrote:
    Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 7:44 pm

    The rest of this conversation is available here:

    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=177223

    Like your users explained, it was not fault of any browser (Torpark, Firefox, IE), it was Yahoo's way to track users down by using a different method to hide cookies on other places.


    The strange thing in that context were your words: First off, clear your cache/cookies of your regular firefox/IE/etc. Make sure you aren't running them.


    I was paranoid, and afraid of my old cookies saved for regular Firefox and/or IE were being accessed somehow by Torpark/Xerobank, even if all directories were on different places.

    My first assumption was: "If I was logging on some site years ago, and I came back only now by using Torpark, they will recognize me by accessing my eternal cookies saved on my regular browsers?".

    It was just a theory and there's no evidence of some breach of security of this kind regarding cookies and whatever tools used by XeroBank. Anyway, I am curious to know why XeroBank cannot be used while FireFox is running.

    I assume they were 100% not related. Perhaps you could explain what Wikipedia was referring.
     
  5. SteveTX

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    Jim,

    The wikipedia entry means that xB Browser and normal Firefox won't run at the same time. I've disabled it. I am concerned for the security of allowing them at the same time, and the possibility of DOM super-cookies.

    Steve
     
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