Commercial A-T Commensurate w/ TDS Glory Days?

Discussion in 'other anti-trojan software' started by mallen1, May 22, 2007.

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  1. mallen1

    mallen1 Registered Member

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    Does commercial or commercially affiliated* anti-trojan software exist that is commensurate w/ TDS (Trojan Defence Suite) back in its glory day?

    The list seems to get shorter by the month. Which product shines in terms of:
    1) efficacy (sensitivity and specificity)
    2) daily updates every day
    3) ease of use (anyone remember "if it's red, kill it")
    4) customer service/corporate stability

    *by commercially affiliated, I mean freeware produced by a software corporation that sells most of its products and is motivatied by its profit margin.

    Thanks,
    -Mark

    XP, Prevx1, Eset NOD32, Webroot Spy Sweeper, Windows Oneway Firewall, Ella Spam Filter
     
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  2. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    Hello,
    You could try AVG AS?
    BTW, it is a bit difficult to compare the older days with now, as some things have changed a bit...
    Mrk
     
  3. the Tester

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    I don't think you will find anything right now that has the versatility and tools of TDS-3.
     
  4. mallen1

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    That I know, but help me out with second best.
     
  5. mallen1

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    NoAdware
    asquared
    XoftSpyXE
    Trojan Hunter
    Ewido
    Spyware Doctor
    BOClean

    Anything, something must work !!!

    Please . . .
     
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  7. mallen1

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    EliteKiller,

    Thanks for taking the time to write. I read the thread you provided and the product has dedicated and educated proponents.

    THEN I FIND

    "SAS Pro failed to detect any of the five commercial keyloggers I tried and in fact couldn't detect any of the four different keylogging techniques used by keyloggers. It also couldn't detect process injection, nor process memory space violation, (two common malware techniques) nor could it detect the installation of a trojan server." -CastleCops

    "Perhaps most seriously, SAS Pro doesn't protect itself from termination by a hostile agent." -ibid CastleCops

    "In testing, did poorly at blocking malware installation. No protection against commercial keyloggers" -PCMag


    ON THE OTHER HAND

    "SUPERAntiSpyware will remove ALL the Spyware, NOT just the easy ones. Easily remove pests such as WinFixer, SpyAxe, SpyFalcon, and thousands more!

    SUPERAntiSpyware Professional features highly advanced Real-Time Protection to ensure protection from installation or re-installation of potential threats as you surf the Internet. Used in conjunction with our First Chance Prevention and Registry Protection, your computer is protected from thousands of threats that attempt to infect and infiltrate your system at startup or while shutting down your system." -Dozleng

    "Additionally the Pro Version updates automatically each time before it scans so you don’t have to worry about checking for updates which are issued three or four per week. This certainly provides a feeling of safety when it comes to catching and getting rid of the bad guys.

    An added feature is the “What’s Running On My Computer”, a link to their “File Research Center”. After loading an Active X file, it searched the computer and found some very interesting items and provided a LOG list. “Recognized SAFE Applications” found included AV, Printer, Explorer, Sound and Graphics files, including Superantispywre itself. UnSafe applications were ZERO but Start-Up showed over 20 programs loaded in memory including software “Registration” reminders. We love those because they are so important to be loaded in memoryo_O For each file they have a “More Info” button which gives the WHY, WHAT, SIZE, WHO etc. about the file." -BRCS

    "SuperAntiSpyware Professional does a hell of a job. During our testing it successfully detected and eliminated most of the nasties you put it up against.

    Real-time protection is also a great benefit when it comes to malware and SuperAntiSpyware Professional includes it in the list of options.

    Scanning a single file for spyware is possible due to the integration in the Windows shell." -Softpedia

    AND FINALLY

    There's the usual litany of 1-star "it SUCKS" and 5-star "Killer ap, dude" reviews (transcribed in their entirety) from download sites. My problem is twofold. I'm a casual user and I do research that sometimes I cannot properly interpret.

    Reading these product reviews is like listening to my wife talk about me to my face.

    Again people, thank you very much for your time. Elite Killer and others, I have a favor: please give me more feedback on SAS!

    Take Care,
    -Mark
     
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  8. Mrkvonic

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    Hello,
    SAS is a fair product, light, robust, effective.
    What more is there to say?
    Mrk
     
  9. mallen1

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    Mrk,

    Greetings and thank you for your time and your post. Does the collective mind think I'd be better off adding SAS or an equivalent anti-trojan application, or, moving from Windows Firewall to a more robust creation, e.g. agnitum's Outpost Firewall Pro (+/- Blockpost plug-in)?

    It's odd. Despite super-safe hex, my daily sweeps are beginning to coming up with a handful of spy-cookies. This never happened up until three weeks ago. I don't know if I have a hole (no jokes), if someone's calling home, or what. Everything's pretty innocuous looking and swiftly quarantined, but still . . .

    Thanks,
    -Mark

    XP Pro, Prevx1, Eset NOD32, Webroot Spy Sweeper, Windows Oneway Firewall, Ella Spam Filter
     
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  10. Mrkvonic

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    Hello,

    Cookies are nothing you should worry about, except aesthetically.

    The single most valuable factor that you can introduce to your system is the alternative browser - namely Firefox, Opera, K-Meleon. Not only far far far far more secure than the crappy M$ product, they actually support international web standards. So you'd be doing everyone a favor.

    Second, I don't know what collective mind thinks, but here at BORG, we do not like M$ security products.

    Third, if you follow a few simple rules, you will need no scanner or anything for that matter - and if you do use them - your scans should be squeaky and boringly clean. In that regard, you can use SAS as a testimony to tradition. But if you are faced with hard infections and detections every day, then you should really reconsider your practices.

    Regarding Windows firewall, it's ok - depending on what you need or want. You want outbound control? You need more than Windows firewall. As simple as that.

    What firewall? Well, ZoneAlarm, Comodo, Kerio, Sygate, all fair candidates. Depends on how knowledgeable you are and how well you intend to use these products, bearing in mind that your choices will always be the most important line of defense.

    On most of my Windows machines, I only run firewall or at most firewall and anti-virus. I heavily game online, do p2p, visit naughty sites etc., and have never ever had any concerns with so-called security. The single most important factor are non-MS products.

    Use Firefox instead of IE.
    Use OpenOffice instead of MS Office.
    Use Notepad++ instead of Notepad/Wordpad.
    Use Thunderbird instead of Outlook.
    Use GAIM instead of Messenger.

    These changes will contribute to 99.9999% of peace you need. Everything else is for show, save a firewall as a proper packet filter.

    Have a solid backup solution and keep your personal data safely backed up on several locations.

    Mrk
     
  11. Longboard

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    :) Yes; Add: Good support, continual updates, good price.
    And; what else he said. :thumb:

    Not a HIPS/IDS there are others for that.

    For a recommendation from a very experienced malware tracker:
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/member.php?u=29567
     
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    Following a legal settlement with AOL, Gaim has been renamed Pidgin and its 2.0.0 release is now available...

    http://www.pidgin.im/pidgin/news/latest_news/

    Coooo!
     
  13. mallen1

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    Longboard,

    I'm totally with you on the multiple backup thing. But hey, I'm a commoner. I eat meat and use my shirt for a napkin. To dump everything MS is like deciding only to speak Albanian from this moment forward. It's suddenly pretty quiet 'round here.

    I'm afraid I need a more practical solution for me. Or language courses. At any rate, I sincerely appreciate the time and thought you put into your response. It gives me something new to contemplate and that is always good.

    Joliet Jake - don't know what to say except that I loved the movie.
    Elwood: We've thrown a rod.
    Jake: Is that serious?
    Elwood: Yup.


    Take Care,
    -Mark
     
  14. EliteKiller

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    Please read this post from Nick Skrepetos:
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=986134&postcount=11
     
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    IMO, you have SAS, AVG AS and A-Squared. Then there's Trojan Hunter, but i have no idea how it is. Hey, i'm going to check it out..
    Oh my! AOL...
     
  17. mallen1

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    Pedro,

    Not sure if you're talkin to me, but my prophylaxis is at the bottom of this post. No AOL in these parts.

    Thanks,
    -Mark

    XP, Prevx1, Eset NOD32, Webroot Spy Sweeper, Windows Oneway Firewall, Ella Spam Filter
     
  18. Pedro

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    Surely you saw the "quote" above said comment..
     
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    Dont give a damn about CastleCops and PCMAg.
     
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