Cell Phone tracking or tracing

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by RioWoman, Feb 19, 2005.

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  1. RioWoman

    RioWoman Registered Member

    Feb 19, 2005
    I have been getting several phone numbers on my incoming calls to my cell phone. Ive looked up the Area codes and they are all stemming from the Bay Area in California. I called each of them back, and all of them just ring about 6 times then I hear a loud beeping noise. All the numbers are different. Could this be a way to track or trace my phone?

    Thank you
  2. bigc73542

    bigc73542 Retired Moderator

    Sep 21, 2003
    SW. Oklahoma
    Be careful how you call those numbers back. There is a scam going around that if you call the number back it is possible to get charged several thousand dollars for the call because it is rerouted to a special number that charges by the second to connect, as much as one hundred dollars a second. I received a letter from my cell company informing me of the scam.

    Last edited: Feb 20, 2005
  3. RioWoman

    RioWoman Registered Member

    Feb 19, 2005
    Mine is a prepaid phone. But Im more concerned if it's the police or something like that. Ive not done any illegal activity But the calls are a bit odd.
  4. bigc73542

    bigc73542 Retired Moderator

    Sep 21, 2003
    SW. Oklahoma
    but if you have a wireless number it is vulvenerable but they just can't get any charges put on your phone. At least that is one good point in favor of a prepaid phone ;)

  5. Jimbob1989

    Jimbob1989 Registered Member

    Oct 18, 2004
    If someone is tracking you I doubt it is the police unless you have anything to hide. However, there is currently a tool available which allows parents to track their children using the interent and their mobile phone. However, this possibility would depend on your age which I do not have to hand.

  6. Michael_aust

    Michael_aust Registered Member

    Jan 29, 2005
    Lancashire (UK)
    That tool for tracking people by there mobiles is open to anyone no matter what there age. You also have to give your consent for it to work on your phone. Could it not be that a company has got hold of you telephone number and its one of those automated call things were they say you have won something? We always get them at home.

  7. anti-spy

    anti-spy Guest

    Cell phone tracking is a very possible threat to privacy, and one way to be sure no tracking is occurring is to physically remove the battery from your phone. Just shutting it off will not always work. This could be very inconvenient, and not always possible, but considering the alternative, I would consider it a smart move if such things concern you.
  8. This is just another ploy for BIG brother to take away our God given freedom...it's called PRIVACY!

    Next will be a chip put in us to make sure that if we get hurt, then the chip will give all our vitals and save us...BS...we will be tracked like dogs, and things are only getting worse.

    The sad part is...no body has the balls to stick up for what they beleive in. We let our government do whatever it wants, and it will get worse.

    Last time I checked...we live in a democracy, not a dictatorship.
  9. spy1

    spy1 Registered Member

    Dec 29, 2002
    Clover, SC
    From the most recent EFFector list newsletter:

    * New Government Excuses for Cell Phone Surveillance

    In the Government's response to EFF's amicus brief opposing
    the use of your cell phone to track your location, it
    supplies a new argument for the court's authority to force
    your wireless carrier to turn over this information: the All
    Writs Act.

    The All Writs Act is a federal law that empowers federal
    courts to issue the writs (court orders) that are "necessary
    or appropriate in aid of their respective jurisdictions and
    agreeable to the usages and principles of law." It's a sort
    of catch-all law, allowing a court to get assistance from a
    third party to execute a prior order of the court, so long as
    the assistance required is not overly burdensome and does not
    violate the Constitution.

    We strongly dispute the Government's view of the breadth and
    strength of the All Writs Act as a cell phone surveillance
    tool, especially where, as here, Congress has specifically
    limited the use of cell site information to track location.
    The U.S. Supreme Court has explained, "Where a statute
    specifically addresses the particular issue at hand, it is
    that authority, and not the All Writs Act, that is

    But the most interesting part of the Government's response is
    what it reveals about the DOJ's expansive use of the All
    Writs Act in other cases. Without citation to any cases
    supporting the invasive surveillance of credit cards without
    probable cause, the Government notes:

    Currently, the government routinely applies for and upon a
    showing of relevance to an ongoing investigation receives
    "hotwatch" orders issued pursuant to the All Writs Act. Such
    orders direct a credit card issuer to disclose to law
    enforcement each subsequent credit card transaction effected
    by a subject of investigation immediately after the issuer
    records that transaction.

    This is a revelation, and a disturbing one at that, since
    these so-called "hotwatch" orders have not been previously
    mentioned in court cases, law review articles, or DOJ
    materials. While the cell phone tracking case is still
    ongoing, our litigation has unveiled yet another step taken
    towards the surveillance society.

    The All Writs Act should not become the All Surveillance Act.
    As the Supreme Court has acknowledged, the Act was only
    intended to be a residual authority to issue writs that are
    not otherwise covered by statute, but the Act does not
    authorize courts to issue ad hoc writs whenever compliance
    with statutory procedures appears inconvenient or less
    appropriate. It's high time for courts to scale back this
    pernicious use of the All Writs Act and help carve out a
    future in which we would want to live.

    EFF's Amicus Brief:

    The Government's Response:

    The All Writs Act:

    (All issues of the EFFector list can be found here:

    http://www.eff.org/effector/ ). Pete
  10. beetlejuice69

    beetlejuice69 Registered Member

    Mar 16, 2005
    Good ol` George is taking away our rights one day at a time under the guise of 9/11. While bombing Irac to give them freedom...we lose ours. Sad days lay ahead.
  11. Bubba

    Bubba Updates Team

    Apr 15, 2002
    Due to the fact this thread started with a concern by a poster 9 months ago and valid assistance was rendered....I am taking the liberty to close this thread due to the new direction it has taken. If those that recently posted(today) wish to start another non political type thread Please do so in one of our appropriate Forums and if it's politics another more appropriate site.

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