Carbonite Announces Webroot Purchase

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  1. mood

    mood Updates Team

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    Carbonite Announces Webroot Purchase
    The purchase will add WebRoot's cloud-based security to the cloud-based data backup and recovery platform of Carbonite
    February 7, 2019

    https://www.darkreading.com/cloud/carbonite-announces-webroot-purchase/d/d-id/1333823
    Announcement (PDF): https://carbonitewebroot.transactionannouncement.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Carbonite-to-Acquire-Webroot-Press-Release.pdf
     
  2. ProTruckDriver

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    This should be interesting watching where Webroot goes in the future. I wish Webroot the best of luck with the changes.
     
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  3. Umbra

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    Interesting, only 618 millions?
    Webroot share 7% of the market, Cylance had 1% and were bought 1.6 billions.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/c...acquire-webroot-2019-02-07?mod=hp_minor_pos20

    edit: not 2% but 7%
     
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  4. Trooper

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    Wow crazy news.
     
  5. ProTruckDriver

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    That is interesting.
     
  6. Umbra

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    yes, i think the undervalue, and the fact Webroot board even accepted to be acquired, seems to be the result of the multiple issues they faced in the past, especially those corporate system breakage due to badly made signature updates... those are unforgivable in a corporate point of view, it is a death sentence.
    I won't be surprised if Webroot disappears from home market.

    edit: not 2% but even 7%...(based on these sites), which make it even worse...
    https://www.statista.com/statistics...eld-by-antivirus-vendors-for-windows-systems/

    https://metadefender.opswat.com/reports/anti-malware-market-share#!/
     
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  7. jjc225

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    This is amazing news. I guess I will have to check out Carbonite down the road.
     
  8. Triple Helix

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    Time will only tell and the deal will not be completed from the link in the first post.

     
  9. Umbra

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    I'm not sure they will release a "Carbonite (Webroot) AV" for Home users. It is mostly tech acquisition than a company acquisition, like Norton did with Threatfire or Emsisoft with Tell Amu.
    The best case is they keep the Webroot consumer division, which should be only if the incomes worth the cost.
    All that is just suppositions and theories (based from similar cases) since the deal isn't much detailed at the moment.
     
  10. Larry Paul

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    Just received:

    Dear Valued Webroot Customer,

    I am delighted to tell you that Webroot has entered into an agreement to be acquired by Carbonite, a leader in cloud-based data protection.

    Rest assured, the Webroot product you own today will continue to protect you, your family and your most sensitive data now and in the future. And, we will continue our dedication to award-winning customer support.

    In the coming months I look forward to sharing more about our exciting plans!

    Sincerely,

    Mike Potts

    President and CEO

    Webroot
     
  11. imdb

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    you mean tall emu?
     
  12. Nightwalker

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    Just this? I guess Webroot was facing some serious issues, this isnt a good news at all.
     
  13. Umbra

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    Yes me too

    Yes
     
  14. bellgamin

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    I do hope that Carbonite makes Webroot a leading anti-malware app. IMO, Webroot's near-total avoidance of being tested has signified weakness rather than strength. Granted, AV tests are very far from perfect, but the "big boys" (ESET, Avira, Kaspersky, et al) don't run from them. Neither should Webroot.
     
  15. Umbra

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    Personally I qualify those labs as just marketing proxies for vendors, both having something to gain from each other.
    Find a lab where AVs score less than 90%, you will have hard time. All could do it but then the vendor will never participate anymore.

    Back to your statement, usually those doing so is because they underperform in those test. Often pretexting the methodology used by the lab:
    1- it isnt adapted to the way the AV works (webroot).
    2- the methodology is "lab only" and doesn't reflect how things works in real world (Norton mentioning their AV focuses on prevalence, not unique, obscure malware/simulators used by labs)

    Whatever those arguments are valid or not, for the Average Joe, this look like a deflection.
     
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    I assume those tests DO use actual malware samples, right? Ergo, are you saying that those AVs being tested are made aware of the composition of the test samples, prior to the tests?

    Yes, but doesn't that "underperformance" infer that the underperforming AV DID in fact, allow a larger amount of malware to slip by it than was true for the AVs who DID block 90% or more of the malware?
    I assume that the tests are based mainly on the simple idea of seeing whether or not each tested AV does or does not block each given malware from getting past it. Thus, if a malware gets past Brand "W" AV, then Brand W did NOT block that malware. Thus, if Brand W consistently lets significantly more malware get past it, UNblocked, than is true for other tested AVs, why should I buy Brand W?

    Is my view too simplistic? Umbra, i am honestly asking these questions as purely questions, not argument.
     
  17. Umbra

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    It is more shady than that, the labs seems to select malware not so fresh...
    I used to have real serious zero-hour obfuscated malware, of course no AV detected them. So if I was a lab doing a test with such samples, you imagine the PR nightmare I will cause for them..
    Not saying if you start using scriptors...

    Did you observed than many labs dont mention the samples age?
    When you ask them publicly the details of the samples, they don't even reply, when you mention you work for a vendor, they ask you to email them....

    Some brands never perform well in test or even in real. They have customers because the hype or some fancy features.
    The thing is when you work in Q&A, you have the duty to manage to bypass your own product, then you try to do the same with others just to compare, and sadly none are invulnerable, some disclose it, others just silently pushes updates with the very popular "several bugs fixes" not to alarm customers.
     
  18. bellgamin

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    @ Umbra -- Fresh malware or old malware, the fact is this: an "underperformer" did NOT block as many nasties as the other AVs.

    You have convinced me that AV Tests are not perfect but, even so, their test-result data surely are based on actual tests & are not fabricated. Apart from their test data, the average user has no other basis for choosing an AV -- it's just a crap shoot.

    I feel that a very possible reason why Webroot sold to Carbonite at a bargain basement price (compared to what other AVs have sold for) is their failure to compete in the "Test Lab's Arena" with other top-selling AVs.
     
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