Can I sign into Gmail, and not Google?

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  1. roger_m

    roger_m Registered Member

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    I am considering creating a new Gmail account, and am wondering if it is possible to login to Gmail without logging in to Google, so that when I visit google.com I am not signed in.

    The reason for this is that I don't want Google keeping a record of my searches.

    I know I could avoid the problem by using another email provider, but I like Gmail. It's not my first choice but since FastMail no longer offers free accounts, Gmail seems like a better option.
     
  2. elapsed

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    I don't think so. But you can disable a lot of things including saving your searches, in your Google account settings.
     
  3. guest

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    You can't. It's an all in one account, and that also includes the silly G+.
     
  4. Dave0291

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    No, once you use one Google service (barring search), they pretty much sign you up for them all.
     
  5. Minimalist

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    You can opt out of G+ and can even remove it from your account if you don't like it.

    hqsec
     
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  6. elapsed

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    Actually...

    This. I just realized the other day you can "delete" your G+ profile entirely and have a simple Google account.
     
  7. gorhill

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    At 10$/year for FastMail, I'm completely stunned to read that "Gmail seems like a better option".
     
  8. Mrkvonic

    Mrkvonic Linux Systems Expert

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    Two browsers, sure. Two browsing profiles, sure.
    How about check email, sign out, sign in on demand?
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  9. harsha_mic

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    block cookies explicitly for youtube.com and google.com, This way you will be able bypass both google search and youtube, when u login thru gmail.com :)

    When you login from gmail.com (it actually logins from accounts.google.com), it will be able to set cookies only for gmail.com or mail.google.com but not youtube.com and google.com

    In firefox, i did it from about:permissions.
    In Chrome, i did it thru httpsb addon.

    Thanks, Harsha.
     
  10. Minimalist

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    Yes that's the way I do it. Sign in, do whatever I have to, sign out, close browser (SBIE deletes cache), run browser with new session and don't worry about Google privacy...

    hqsec
     
  11. dogbite

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    yeah, 2 browsers or multiple profiles in the same one it's the best solution in my view. I use this set-up regurarly. Very comfy.
     
  12. DBone

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    How exactly?
     
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    Why not use StartPage for searching? You get Google results without the tracking.
     
  15. dogbite

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    I also use startpage, so no issue.

    But:

    1. Results are somehow less accurate than google, especially if your search keywords are not in English.
    2. If you wanna go for images, Startpage is far below google in terms of results.

    Daily it's does not matter much to me, but for some special searches I still google.
     
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    Startpage is practically useless unless you're going for something pretty common and well known. As for G+, yeah it's true you can "opt out". But don't expect to not be hounded about it in your Gmail. And, if you decide to do anything on Youtube besides simply watch videos, it will be forced on you.
     
  18. roger_m

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    I currently have two accounts with FastMail, one of which I have been using for years and will keep doing so. So yes, I definitely do prefer FastMail to Gmail (and Hotmail, Yahoo etc), but this new account will mainly only be used for a short period of time until I purchase a domain and use an email address at the domain, so I figured why not use something free for now.
     
  19. guest

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    I know. At least for now it's still possible. Although nobody can be sure if Google will enforce that damned G+ even further and make you have to own a G+ account if you want to use any of their services someday.

    And gawd I just checked my old YT channel. Guess what I got...

    Channel.jpg

    I thought I still can opt out to not linking my channel to a G+ account. Now there's no way I can keep it without having to own a G+ account. :mad:
     
  20. Sordid

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    I figured this out from Disconnect extension. They use cookie handling. I do this on stock Chrome. Works well.

    I only handle Gmail with my cookie policy. Accept all cookies, bar 3rd party/data. Erase all cookies when closed. Then whitelist these cookies:

    mail.google.com allow

    https://www.google.com block

    you may need [*.]accounts.google.com clear on exit

    Forget...

    This will block Google search log-in, what you want, BUT you must add the rest off the google subdomains or you will be logged in there. So block translate.google.com or even youtube.com etc to get more robust rules. Every once in a while I'll find a new sub that I haven't blocked. I still see log-in on googlechromereleases.blogspot.com for example because it's not in the above policy and I post quick-bugs there sometimes so leave it.

    See where I'm going?

    Either way...it works. Cookie policy IS the answer without using extensions.

    edit: I see Harsha Mic has already added the above info. He's on point.
     
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