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  1. maddawgz

    maddawgz Registered Member

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    "If it smells like a nasty, BOClean halts it completely and then
    throws up a box asking if you want to remove it and its entrails
    completely."

    "BOClean is the Perfect Holiday Gift
    ...perfect for that loved one who's always having problems with
    their computer, or constantly forgets to scan. BOClean works in real
    time, so there's never any maintenance to forget."

    I say it's usless then.

    A. The makers of BOClean ASSUME that you (the user of their product)
    will know which process or dependency is a good one and which are
    questionable. If you download and install a new program how are you
    to know what is good and what is bad? Hell I have been using a
    computer for years and can't tell you every process or dependency
    every program I have uses. Never mind if they are bad or good.

    B. If someone "constantly forgets to scan" their computer with an
    Antvirus program they are more apt to allow ALL or MOST of the
    "nasties" to run. If not just to save time and hassle. That burning
    need to download the latest rubber ducky porn sure goes faster if you
    just click yes.

    BOClean is so not for the novice user. The FUD coming from BOCLean
    makers is incredible.


    i found this write upo_O any comments/
     
  2. Don Pelotas

    Don Pelotas Registered Member

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    I think that who ever wrote this is wrong, infact BOClean is for the novice as it is a "set and forget" program. :)
     
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  3. Tassie_Devils

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    Thanks Don, yes I have moved to this appropriate Other Anti-Trojan Software forum ~ TAS
     
  4. controler

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    I own both Boclean and TDS-3 now and respect the support given by both companies. The thing I like best about Boclean is that they allow to to install on both your desktop and your laptop, TDS-3 does not at this time.


    Bruce
     
  5. wizard

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    If I understand it right you never used BOClean? I think you misunderstood the concept of BOClean. BOClean is a pretty simple scanner. It runs in background and checks constantly all processes for certain types of malware (eg. backdoor trojans). Once a new piece of malware is found BOClean is informing the user about it and giving the option to clean the system.

    Compared to other anti-trojan programs I have to admit that none of them was easier to use than BOClean.

    wizard
     
  6. Oremina

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    Two pieces of paid for software I cherish above all others:-

    1) Process Guard

    2) BOClean

    I remember a thread over on the DSLR Security forum that of all the people who had complained of CoolWebSearch infections, none of them were running BOClean. (I can't give you bell, book and candle on that, but I'm sure I'm right.)

    JMHO
     
  7. mercurie

    mercurie A Friendly Creature

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    Creature Mercurie here:

    I have changed anti-virus, added spyware killers, tried new firewalls. But have always had and trusted for protection. BoClean. Always there, always running.

    BoClean=Trojan Defense!!! ;)
     
  8. Acadia

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    As long as you're going to copy/paste that usenet posting I might as well copy/paste Kevin McAleavey's reply to that original poster:

    This is Kevin speaking:

    "Guess I have to address this as well then ... (sigh)

    Before this comes off sounding like an ad, just want to explain that as a
    result of this nonsense, I need to describe what BOClean DOES and why it
    was designed the way it is - please forgive me, hopefuly I won't have to
    go through all this again here.

    BOClean is NOT a "file scanner" ... after all, everybody's ALREADY GOT
    ONE - it's called Kapersky, or Norton, or EZ or NOD32 ... most antiviruses
    are pretty good at finding nasties LONG before BOClean gets a chance to.
    BOClean is designed as a "second string" automatic program which is
    designed specifically for network admins to place on their desktops to
    avoid so many trips out to the field to solve such problems. BOClean is a
    "install and walk away" tool, designed to stop nasties instantly if they
    get past the file scanner. After all, admins know that their folks out on
    the desktops ALWAYS scan everything before running it. (grin) We also sell
    to individuals on the same basis.

    BOClean uses a number of methods - for mass-produced nasties like worms,
    poorly written trojans, and in particular "scumware/adware/hijackware"
    then a startup and file signature serves to positively identify a
    malicious program. For "designer" trojans and specific attacks, memory
    signatures or behavioral patterns are sufficient. For other situations,
    the existence of something where it doesn't belong (rootkits) is a trigger
    and finally we have additional detection (I hate to use the word
    "heuristics" but the concept is similar) for yet other situations.

    BOClean is fully AUTOMATIC ... if it spots a known or suspected nasty,
    the FIRST thing it does is SHUT IT DOWN. Instantly. It also removes any
    DLL's or other injected items. Then and ONLY then does it pop up a "such
    and such FOUND" box. AFTER the threat has been mitigated. (it'd be foolish
    to allow it to continue running while someone tries to contact the
    helpdesk) The end user (IF the "display alert" box is ENABLED, otherwise
    this too will be handled automatically) is then presented with a "Do you
    want to remove the FILE(S) TOO?" box which will then allow BOClean to
    perform a cleanup of whatever it detected as well.

    This latter point is IMPORTANT to admins - if it's something they already
    know, when that call comes in to the help desk they might say, "go ahead
    and say YES" *or* they might send someone to collect the identified (and
    shut down) nasties for examination. We also provide this option should the
    situation be a false alarm or other situation where a known nasty is being
    used for a legitimate purpose. This option permits the file(s) to remain
    and be restarted at a later time. OPTIONS. That's why the box at all.

    But the "biffing" of a rogue process, thread, or injected item is
    instantaneous as SOON as it goes to start. After all, if it got past the
    file scanner, then it wasn't detected otherwise. Time is of the essence.
    The "allow or prevent" comes AFTER the fact - and once stopped, any such
    has to be manually restarted if the option is made to NOT remove it.

    Hope this explains it all a bit better - BOClean was designed for the
    glass room folks based upon requirements of corporate, government and
    institutional needs - fast, reliable and AUTOMATIC ... (blatant
    advertisement!) The PERFECT thing to put on the machines of those who'd
    likely call you on Christmas to say their machine is all slowed down and
    buggered - no user attention required (/blatant advertisement!)"

    End of Kevin's post

    Acadia
     
  9. FanJ

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    With all due respect, I don't like this posting at all !!!!!

    Kevin is an highly respected security expert.

    Jan.
     
  10. Tassie_Devils

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    I think that maddawgz was only "quoting" an opinion from another source. :)

    Maybe he could have phrased/set it out better, but he did say at the bottom, "i found this write up any comments/"

    @ maddawgz, if I understand correctly, you did find this comment and it's NOT YOUR opinion, right? :)

    Maybe it would be best to use the 'Quote' tags in future and especially provide a LINK to the source, as this would alleviate any discrepancies in meaning from your post. :):)

    EG:
    i found this write up any comments/ [at this link here]

    ========================================

    Well, that's the way I read MD's original post, but I must admit, I also thought he was commenting personally at first. :)

    Hope I am correct in this assumption.

    Cheers, TAS
     
  11. mercurie

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    FanJ,
    You can tell from my post how much respect I have for Kevin and Nancy both. They gave me tremendous email support on my over taxed ME OS worked on it with me until I got it working perfectly.

    What does "FUD" mean sorry to be stupid? Maybe I should not ask and do not want to know, it might just make my blood pressure go up! :(
     
  12. Tassie_Devils

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    ROFL... yes, it probably will make BP rise. You will have to figure it out. :D

    TAS
     
  13. FanJ

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    Hi Mercurie,

    FUD means:
    "Fear, Uncertainty, & Doubt"
    http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exact&Acronym=FUD&Find=Find

    I fully agree with your posting about the respect for and the support from Kevin and Nancy.
    They deserve most definitely something better than being accused of "FUD".
    Anyone posting something like that can be assured he/she will get a reply from me.
    This nonsense HAS to be stopped !!!

    Jan.
     
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    mercurie A Friendly Creature

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    Thanks FanJ. :)

    Paranoid2000,
    I've seen that possible from one of your other posts. Thanks.

    Everyone on this thread,
    I have decided after reading Maddawaz post 1, three times it is no longer worthy of my time. It offers no help to any one and is a little "baiting" and since I do not want to get personal I will :blink: be quiet about this...for now.
     
  16. Mr.Blaze

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    hmmmmmmmmmm good points but you jumping the gun a littile

    it is in fact a newbie app

    it you know what im test your theory out for one week and give you the results for one week i will not install anything on this computer and have boclean runing

    im thinking the issue your haveing isnt the program but actualy us i to have same problems but it is because how i use this pc.

    i blaze have every damn program update and patch
    i have 40 gig of software on this damn pc

    im not your advrage usser and i beting your not either i beting your like me and run the hell out of your pc

    i beting if you were common like the others who check -email post and dowen load an occastinal file you habve no problem with bo clean

    but if your like me runing 4 to 5 programs at once and mass security applications dowenloading all kinds of stuff you are going to have hang ups

    boclean might not be causing it but reporting it and asking you to confirm so it dont hang up later by excluding stuffs

    so one week im run boclean ill report the real deal
     
  17. zx9rblue

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    I stumbled on this thread by accident but.............
    IMO BoClean is one of the very few programs out there worth every damn penny of purchase price. I run Kerio, Avast and BoClean. While I was away on travel, BoClean stopped a trojan launched on my wife's not so good point and click practice. The AV missed it. Upon my return from travel, all was well. BoClean did its job. No need to do anything else.
    It's tough to be critical of this program considering it delivers and the GENEROUS license agreement.
    Whiskey glass hoisted to Kevin.
     
  18. Infinity

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    Damn, good to have Boclean then :D :D

    no serious, if there is one thing good about Bo then

    you are 100% correct with this statement.
     
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    yes, done with reading but if I may say this was not a constructive conversation or feedback regarding Boclean. the other person didn't even purchased boclean and making such statements...

    there are enough independent reviews putting boclean on top three. and they know what they say, they used it and tested it.
     
  21. Infinity

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    so it is normal if you have boclean (or any other av/at/spyware) that you have to know what you are doing. you cannot just delete all malware(and sometimes false positives) without looking for explanations of their exe's,...

    this done with all of them scanning software imho. and this is good.

    lets say the software begins to delete all malware themselves without any user intervention, who would want that honestly? :D .
     
  22. Mr.Blaze

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    sept 11 7:49 am i forgot to start boclean as soon as i got to my desktop but i started it just befor i got on line zap juno anf nav and boclean are active

    im actualy surprised no hang up at all

    it seems to be working alot better then in the past with windows me it was glitchy and xp was nightmare v4.11 seems to be dong well

    im thinking in the past the hang up could had been cause by bad incorect file paths and .dll's and some missing registry keys that i just recently repaired

    i also notice sp2 service pack 2 hasnt cause any problems?

    id almost say by the feel of the machine from experince boclean works well with service pack 2

    o_O how could this be even dcs programs are haveing problems with service pack 2?

    except for worm guard and crypto

    damn if it works this will im add it to the start up normaly i dont do this only with norton but what the heck

    i updated today

    it seems i get updates almost daily good to know there on it.

    man for so littile you get so many updates i only know one other company that does that dcs.

    well so far so good
     
  23. Mr.Blaze

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    :eek: ok found one thing bad because in the past i configured it not to start up when windows starts it seems i dont have a re enable at start up switch

    im looking in the configure boclean menue and dont see a start boclean on start up option grrrrrrrr what gives

    have to tell them to add that switch

    im e-mail them

    guess im have to go to start ups and add it to start up list which is not a newbie thing to do


    why would any body not include a off an on switch for start up is beyond me

    other then that kicks ass lol
     
  24. mercurie

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    TO KEVIN.....Whoops I think I bumped my glass to hard and cracked it...lol :D
     
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    Wow i didnt expect so many replies?? I appologise for ppl who thought i did it to bate? i didnt i came across this write up and was just wondering weather i should get it or not as you seen from my other post's i always ask re new things i come across anyhow thanku ur opinions are valued and i know you all take security seriously? and i think this is a gr8 board once again i think my writing may have been interpreted wrong i should be more clear!! regards maddawgz :rolleyes:
     
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