Bank account compromised. Victim of spyware?

Discussion in 'other security issues & news' started by nadirah, Jan 21, 2005.

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  1. nadirah

    nadirah Registered Member

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  2. Ronin

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    Nadirah

    Have you considered that a 26 year old IT tech specialist perhaps knows more about security than a 13 year old kid, whose only expertise comes from hanging out on this forum for less than a year?

    I'm getting sick of all this smug arrogant condensing remarks from people who think it could not happen to them. Nadirah without more details we cannot say for sure that it could not happen even to *You* despite all your DCS and Wilder approved security gear.
     
  3. Infinity

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    I understand and probably the tech savvy, we are speaking off, knows all about spyware :D

    but everybody's own opinion I am affraid. it is just Nadirahs thought Ronin, let him have it, live and let live and that sort of things :p

    personally: I don't believe everything I read, and I surely don't believe that a tech savvy computer specialist would let his bancaccounts steal by spyware. more chance: it could be someone inside his "environment".

    best wishes
     
  4. nadirah

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    Now, people's knowledge on computer security and spyware does not depend on how old they're. How can you say that a 26 year old knows more than me? I spend most of my time learning about computer security and I take very strict security precautions online. And I don't download any program that I know contains high security risks. I know a lot about computer security too, so don't say that just because I'm a 13 year old I know less about computer security and spyware than anyone else. Your comments about me mean only one thing: You look down on me just because I'm younger.
    I'm NOT being smug and arrogant, I've got my own method of keeping my computer safe and secure and it works. For 6 months my computer has been clean of all spyware, no malware/trojans or viruses at all.

    Your comments:
    Have you considered that a 26 year old IT tech specialist perhaps knows more about security than a 13 year old kid, whose only expertise comes from hanging out on this forum for less than a year?

    What you mean by saying my only expertise comes from hanging out on this forum for less than a year? I'm not stupid, I learn about computer security too, not only from this forum but from other sources too.

    Your comments:
    I'm getting sick of all this smug arrogant condensing remarks from people who think it could not happen to them. Nadirah without more details we cannot say for sure that it could not happen even to *You* despite all your DCS and Wilder approved security gear.

    I know very clearly that I may get hit by malware or spyware even though I'm very secure, I always identify the possible attack vectors and prevent any malicious software from getting into my computer by taking very strict safety precautions and keeping all my security programs up-to-date. I know a lot of teenagers around my age love downloading those P2P programs like imesh and kazza, but I DO NOT do that. I see P2P as a very dangerous security risk and I'll never download any P2P program at all. And I don't visit any suspicious website I see also.
    I won't get hit so easily as long as I take the necessary safety precautions and keep my security programs up-to-date.



     
  5. BlueZannetti

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    One of the sad realities of the world is that while this is a perfectly reasonable expectation, I've run across plenty of IT tech specialists who seem to know a lot less about appropriate security measures than a nascent security conscious teenager.

    The quoted article was completely devoid of details of any note, not that I'm surprised at that. Technical details can be boring and make for a heavy read. Taken at face value, the subject appears to have an AV and empties his IE(?) cache regularly. If that's all the security measures the person has taken, I'd personally maintain that this particular IT specialist is really not terribly savvy after all. Of course, he may have taken plenty of additional steps that remained unsaid in the story. There's loads of room for idle speculation on either side of the discussion. Just my opinion...

    Blue
     
  6. nadirah

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    Yes, most probably somebody who also uses his computer knows how to access his bank account.
     
  7. Ronin

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    That is not something I rule out of course.


    Exactly, but the first thing conclusion this self proclaimed security guru (check notes) jumps to is that the victim is clueless.
     
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    Enough of the personal insults please.

    Blackspear
     
  9. Ronin

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    Actually I do know a few talented teen hackers, sadly based on months of reading your posts, you have a ways to go.

    I don't mean to be offensive, but as far as I can tell your posts in response to tehcnical problems consist of either

    a) a one liner saying use <insert whatever software you currently favour> and be safe

    b) start blaming the user for being clueless and oh how much knowledgable you are compared to them

    c) Ten forward posts.

    You are not exactly clueless of course compared to say my Mom, but not exactly a security guru as you write in your profile.

    Wow 6 months. I'm impressed. I guess the rest of us who have used computers for decades must start bowing in homage lol.
     
  10. Ronin

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    Sorry, but I see Nadriah edited off his comments already. So this is closed for me.
     
  11. nadirah

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    You know ronin, you're just one guy who seems to like to criticize me a lot. I rather you just keep quiet and don't ever come back here to post. Just because I'm not totally perfect on this forum does not mean that you have to criticize me like that.
     
  12. Infinity

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    Nadirah, can't you just stop this too?

    just drop it, enjoy it here at Wilders everybody makes mistakes.

    don't get personal and don't take it as offence.


    learn of it. In fact, if you are the computer guru you are talking about...then you should know better.

    everybody's own opinion. you have yours, Ronin has his. if you respect that, this would be better for all of you.

    then this waining wouldn't have taken place. ;)


    cheers
     
  13. nadirah

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    You seem to be observing how I post, and you like to insult or criticize me in any way that you can find.
    I started this thread with an article for people to read, but you came here and started insulting me instead. :mad:
    Actually I do know a few talented teen hackers, sadly based on months of reading your posts, you have a ways to go.

    What the heck you mean by you know a few talented teenage hackers, Ronin let me warn you that you better shut up, don't try to encourage me into becoming a computer hacker. I think you're a hacker yourself.
    I will not become a computer hacker at all.
     
  14. nadirah

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    Ok, I'll let it go. To those who're reading this thread, just ignore that guy called Ronin, he's got nothing better to do.
     
  15. Infinity

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    yieehaaaa

    come on guys, it is way to soon in the day to start a flaming war.

    @ Ronin and Nadirah: take eachother by the hand and be friends.
     
  16. dog

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    Hi Nadirah, ;)

    I don't believe Ronin meant any offense, but it could have however been worded a little softer.

    The object of posting anywhere is to ask questions &/or provide information/solutions. Posting blanket statements provides nothing, and does a disservice to any forum. When replying to a thread, the what, why, who, when, and how's are very important ... as this is how an understanding/education is gained ... follow up / add on on questions are also useful if they pertain to the topic, as they can expand knowledge/information of the disscussion.

    I hope you (or anyone else that reads this) understands, what I'm saying.

    Education never ends in this ever changing field.

    I do hope you once again try to provide helpful posts, keeping the above in mind. Remember, teaching others, is even a learning experience for those suppling replies, as it also expands their understanding.

    So Chin Up, Smile ... and do your best. Let us all learn something from this thread, even though it has gone Off topic. ;)

    :) *puppy* :)

    Steve
     
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