AVLab Oct 2013 results out

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Inside Out, Nov 3, 2013.

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  1. blasev

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    its like making indie movie or making Homebrewed beer.
    far from perfect, but who is
     
  2. imdb

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    so be it. but i believe av protection should not be that far from perfect, you know. :p
     
  3. JoeBlack40

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    Avira is the worst of all??Hmmm,i really doubt it...
     
  4. Frank the Perv

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    It's a Damn Fine Test

    All the criticism.... absurd.

    Sure, all tests have limitations.

    But this test and most tests posted on this site are pretty damn good.

    Ya want a bad test, go to YouTube and you can find hundreds of them.
     
  5. imdb

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    Re: It's a Damn Fine Test

    based on what facts? :cautious:
     
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    Which of all? because your "real world" is not mine, nor my grandpa, nor my neighbour...
     
  7. ESS474

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    Crap test, show ESS 6 is better than version 7? :ouch:
     
  8. Frank the Perv

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    Re: It's a Damn Fine Test


    Based on the test criteria posted by the testing organizations.
     
  9. imdb

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    well, doesn't what you said exactly and actually confirm what i said?
    for there's no one single "real world", performed tests should create as many scenarios as possible? isn't that exactly what real world is all about? being not that easily predictable with just one way scenario?
     
  10. imdb

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    Re: It's a Damn Fine Test

    exactly. so, would you please re-read the criteria posted by this very testing organization? oh, hold on, here:

    now you're telling me that you base your statement on these facts, right? :rolleyes:
     
  11. Macstorm

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    That's their own "real world" tests, the ones that the testing organizations want you to believe in.
    As said ad nauseam, they don't necessarily fit everyone's experience, my uncle was always happy for years (Vista/Seven) protected by MSE (product heavily beaten and trashed by testing organizations) without a single infection...
    I introduce you to his "real world".
     
  12. imdb

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    well, you know what, "my uncle" was upset from time to time for he was not protected by various av software on his systems though he was a tech savvy person.
    why? because there are millions of "uncles" around the world whose computing habits and expertise vary in a wide range, from online banking to online company management, online shopping to gaming, surfing naughty sites to tax paying, etc.

    that's why you can't and shouldn't come up saying "hey we've performed some tests on our computer, here's the result, oh btw, we were low on budget and manpower, so we performed tests on a single computer with one single scenario. but we know that you all have been happily using your computers for a long time with no infection, and all of you have same computing habits and are exposed to same attacks because you all have same vulnerabilities so it don't matter, right?". or should you? :rolleyes:
     
  13. blasev

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    imdb you have writen a very long argument. I get you, you think that this test is not up to your standard. and that's ok, I can accept your point of view.

    but to me , I appreciate what this people have done, although far from your standard. and that's my point of view.

    I can have one right?
     
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  14. Frank the Perv

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    And that is it. No test is perfect. But it's another data point to draw an overall conclusion.
     
  15. imdb

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    sure you can. everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

    objection is to that statement of frankie's:

    so, i can't have one?
     
  16. avlab

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    Yee, but why?
    In October ESET relesed version 7, but in past we tested version 6 and we stoped in day relese version 7. Thus ESET 6 and 7 are in the final results. The same TrustPort
     
  17. Macstorm

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    Again, I introduce you to his own "real-world".

    By the way, thanks to AVLab for sharing their test results here :thumb:
     
  18. Inside Out

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    One poor test doesn't matter, but loads of tests pointing to the same thing about an AV should be taken seriously, anyway. What really annoys me is big independent testing companies sticking with the same old stock tests and methodologies, failing to prevent cheating, and thinking performance/usability can be accurately tested in a few days on fresh computers despite all their manpower and resources. If they can get away with their mistakes, why should the more obscure ones that don't claim or pretend to be the best in spite of all their flaws get outright bashed ('crap test' and all)? Heck, some of them actually even cover new ground that needs to be.
     
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  19. Frank the Perv

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    {Deleted} - in keeping of fairness in deleting portions of other posts, I have deleted this section also. Please read my post and Ronjor's below.

    Hopefully that will be the end of the matter. - TAS!


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  20. Tassie_Devils

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    Ladies/Gentlemen,

    This thread is slowly descending into a quagmire of personal attacks.

    Keep it civil please.

    Debates are totally necessary to put forth varying points of interest/opinions, but 'trolling'; 'personal attacks' are NOT.

    Have a nice day. :D

    Cheers,
    TAS!
     
  21. ronjor

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    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=297136
     
  22. imdb

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    couldn't have been put any better.

    kind regards
     
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