AVAST AV Acceptable Enough With This?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by EASTER, Nov 11, 2008.

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  1. EASTER

    EASTER Registered Member

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    As some of you already know i am a fierce HIPS proponant, Lately i decided to add another razor wire to what i consider a circle of incredible proportions in the form of MAMUTU + HIPS = either RTD or EQS + Script Trap or ScriptDefender as well as SandboxIE (On-Demand) to give a outline of front line shielding.

    I already found AVIRA [FREE] on another system which is very good, but does anyone offer an opinion if AVAST AV [free] would also serve as an added defense measure to compliment those other security apps that seem to be within reason virtually impenetrable.

    As if that wasn't enough, ProgressGuard 3.5 is been a very "lite" but extremely useful wall of guard in and of itself that co-incides wonderfully and is another very STRONG! deterrent that even trumps MAMUTU in many ways.

    So questions is, would AVAST be worthy enough to fill in also as Avira already has proven to be so far when teamed along my other security apps mentioned?

    I prefer to take the form of a shorth list of security without use of any virtual systems such as Returnil or DeepFreeze with the only exception of sandboxIE which is On-Demand only anyway?

    ANY COMMENTS? RECOMMENDATIONS TO THIS?

    Thanks EASTER
     
  2. farmerlee

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    I'm a little confused, you want to run avast alongside avira or instead of avira?
     
  3. Saraceno

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    Avast! currently relies on its virus database rather than heuristic analysis. Taking this into consideration, it has done remarkably well for an AV using just a virus database. As we know, heuristics do not necessarily equal malware detection.

    Version 5 is due shortly, which 'should' have a behavioural detection module (thanks RejZor - reading your avast forum posts). And most likely a much needed interface upgrade.

    With regards to its settings, its standard shield, web shield and others (P2P shield, mail shield etc) can be switched off according to a users' needs. The changes can also persist after reboot (for example, if you wanted the real time shields turned off for awhile). This might suit you if you're running a number of other security applications.

    Overall, my experience with Avast! is that it runs smooth, haven't experienced a failed update or program crash, and it has never conflicted with any other program. Runs very light too (including the web scanner which you don't even notice is running -even on older machines).

    Just for reference, see images below. Also, un-check the 'enable skins for simple user interface' in program settings, to activate the plain simple skin seen below.
     

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  4. RejZoR

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    Well there will be some heuristics already in the upcoming new 4.8 build.
    Behavior detection is confirmed for version 5, as well as completelly new interface (which will visualy be much like their standalone Anti-Rootkit program which is still in beta).
    I personally think avast! alone is enough for most users unles you manage to mock up your PC regardles of what you use. In that case you're better off not even using PC...
     
  5. Saraceno

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    The interface of the Avast antirootkit program is quite slick. Quite impressed with it. (Apologies for the attached images, had nothing to do today!)

    To address EASTER, I've run Avast! with MAMUTU and sandboxie with no slowdowns or conflicts. Actually I've run it with most programs mentioned on wilders.
     

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  6. ross232

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    Heuristics as in more than just 'generic' detections? You've got me curious now, all I saw VLK write in the Avast! forum was that there were changes under the hood to the A/V Engine in the beta, but nothing specific?
     
  7. risl

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    I used Avast in the past and that would be my second choise after Dr.Web. It's also a very troublefree AV.
     
  8. RejZoR

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    It's more behavior based than signature, though they obviously work best together...
     
  9. Pedro

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    The only problem i have with Avast is DEP in "AlwaysOn" mode. They should fix it. Other than that,
    is pretty much true. My favorite. :)
     
  10. i_g

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    What exactly is the problem, when does it occur?
    Does the error box show any detailed info? (module name, address, ...)
    Thanks.
     
  11. gery

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    Avast's antispyware ain't that good so is the rootkit scanner.
     
  12. Pedro

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    Standard DEP's notice that it's going to shut down application x.

    I was trying WormGuard and Avast detected something -> DEP.
    There is a different report here, but it's DEP also.
     
  13. RejZoR

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    Well this is clearly not a regular sceanrio where DEP and avast! co-exist just fine. I suggest you come to avast! forums and try to solve the problem there as ALWIL programmers also hang around...
     
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    but avast's rootkit scaner is same as Gmer:thumb:
     
  16. RejZoR

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    And the new avast! 4.8.1282 has just been released with some pretty big changes.

     
  17. gery

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    Read their support forum what does it say about these two components. I had no issues with AVAST .It is just the ugly skin i do not like:mad: It has issues with Threat Fire lately
     
  18. risl

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    You can download custom skins and there are pretty nice alternatives
     
  19. RejZoR

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    Like ppl never heard of skinless interface thats there like forever...
     
  20. i_g

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    Not true, actually... they are different (even though worked on by the same guy).
     
  21. jlo

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    I have to admit at one time submission times for submitted samples were taking a long time (weeks) however I am now finding that virus samples I have submitted are being added in a few days so things have improved.

    I agree with the others, its a strong engine and always runs smoothly. I have it on my daughters computer and at the moment also have it via Gdata as it uses Avast as one of the engines.

    The last few samples I have submitted to both Bitdefender and Avast, Avast have added detection first.

    Well done Avast.

    Cheers

    Jlo
     
  22. twl845

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    I installed Avast on my daughters computer today, and it immediately found a trojan on the initial scan. The trojan spread into 57 files and each time it was found I had to decide what to do with it. I quarantined it. Now what. Avast couldn't fix it. It was in system32, and spread to temp files here and there. Although the scan was agonizingly long, it was very thorough. I thought it would be a simple install and I'd be on my way. :p
     
  23. RejZoR

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    It's recommended to perform a boot-time scan or at least scan in safe mode for proper and thorough cleaning of infected systems.
     
  24. twl845

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    Sorry I wasn't clear. It was a boot-time scan and verrry thorough. :)
     
  25. alphadog

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    Why Mamutu + Avira? Why not just a-squared's Anti-Malware package?
     
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