AV-Test Feb 2015 - Windows 8/8.1

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Thankful, Mar 25, 2015.

  1. RejZoR

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    I just can't believe Qihoo 360 has absolute zero false positives. On my system it was churning false positives one after another on stuff that should never be flagged as malware.

    I also wonder how much stuff was detected by new fully virtualized avast!'s DeepScreen (as Dyna: detection)...
     
  2. zfactor

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    my only issue with eset is i want to be able to use the smart security version and i cant due to the issue with the "lightweight filter". im not sure if i would end up with the same protection with that removed. maybe marcos will chime in. but i figure that has something to do with protection
     
  3. roger_m

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    Me too. In my experience, I haven't had excessive false positives with Qihoo's products. But, I have had enough for it to be an issue.
     
  4. Mortal Raptor

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    you do know that your ESS license can also activate NOD32 FTW since it's a lower product right? NOD32's HIPS + HTTP scanning IMHO is more than enough. ESS's firewall is not the greatest and in fact, I would just use the Windows firewall in addition to my router's firewall and be done with it.
     
  5. zfactor

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    i used the firewall in the custom mode myself. i prefer it personally to using windows firewall that way.
     
  6. zfactor

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    i also agree one of the reasons i stopped using it when i tested it.
     
  7. daman1

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    :thumb: Glad to see Bit did good again
     
  8. Nightwalker

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    It is hard to see a test that Bitdefender isnt on the top.
     
  9. coolcfan

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    It also caused many OEM vendors to perform well in detection tests :p
     
  10. taleblou

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    some of the results do not make sense atleast to me. For example. it says in protection 360 was better then tencent. But in my own test on win 8.1 64bit of the 2 with the same malwares, tencent surpassed 360 in protection.
     
  11. zerotox

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    I really don't see why we should give substance to an insubstantial test by discussing it so much. Almost every other post is - some of the results do not make sense or it is hard for me to believe that...
     
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    According to my own personal use and testing,deepscreen and cloud modules of avast! have really grown and matured over some months.Cloud has been impressive.Deepscreen is doing damn well when it comes to sandbox analysis,it still sometimes misses some samples.

    Over some time I think deepscreen will be key to avast.
     
  14. RejZoR

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    It's just weird how silent they are about Dyna-Gen for some reason. Even when I've asked them about it, they just ignored the inquiry...
     
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    You've done a lot for them over the years and they have a lot of respect for you. So that seems strange to me that they would ignore your inquiry.
     
  16. avman1995

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    I think its already working...because I have been doing test in the VM and avast deepscreen has been doing well even with no NG.
     
  17. RejZoR

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    Yeah? I haven't tested it lately, but I've rarely seen it detect anything in Youtube videos. I mean yes, it was a bit more trigger happy than on release but not by much. That's why I always wonder how many of the all detections in tests was made by DeepScreen. I'd love to see a full list of detections by malware name. So I'd have a rough idea what was the stuff that made the most detections. Were the usual signatures, ws it Evo-Gen, were the [Heur] detections, other more generic heuristics or was it DeepScreen.

    Sure it did well in the test as a whole but I'm still curious.
     
  18. Solarlynx

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    Same here 360TS gives a lot of FP. It's strange that the test shows zero. Maybe they test it only on well-known files?
     
  19. vlk

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    Hi Rejzor & true indian, I don't want to hijack this thread but just a couple of words about the Avast "dyna-gen" engine. As of now, these cloud-based systems are fully functional and doing a great job of detecting stuff that was undetected before. This includes the "dyna-gen" engine I was talking about some time ago - although the actual detections you will see won't have this name (so you can't tell they're actually originating from dyna-gen). But the technology is there (automated machine-learning classification of behavioral logs collected from execution in the DeepScreen VM). Most of these modules went to production during this February and March so there should be a visible increase in Avast detection rates in this period.

    The next thing the team is working on is the extension of the "DRep" type of detections (we have some good ideas on how to further improve the accuracy of those), and these changes will go into production throughout the month of April.

    Overall, I feel quite comfortable about the development over the last couple of months - and hopefully the actual real-world results will confirm that.

    Cheers,
    Vlk
     
  20. RejZoR

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    Thx Vlk, I really appreciate the info on DynaGen. It was the most anticipated tech along with AutoSandbox/NG that probably enabled it to exist in the first place. Care to briefly explain what "DRep" is and what it does? Based on name I assume it is a reputation based system, I just wonder what that "D" means :D
     
  21. Frank the Perv

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    Thanks Vlk. This sounds very interesting. I'll be watching this to see how this does. Good to see Avast introducing new technology.

    -Frank
     
  22. coolcfan

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    The Qihoo 360 QVM is actually newer than the other Qihoo 360 in the test, which is like a "early-access“ version.
    I realized just now there's a guy from Qihoo's AV team in a wechat chatting group I'm in. According to him, QVM is trained with 100M samples everyday, maybe that's why it did a good job in the test.
    I won't be surprised for any good job done by 360 -- they do have the top tech guys in security area in China. However, my attitude to the company is another story.
     
  23. abels

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    Avast has a good performance these days.
     
  24. hawki

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    Does a Company have to request that it be included in the test or does AV-Test choose which to include.Would like to see how Emisoft would do.
     
  25. SweX

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    Yes, vendors have to request to be included (or they may get asked by a testing org if they would like to be included or not). It costs money to be tested, so smaller vendors may not be included in every test, Emsisoft is included in the tests by AV-C, but not by AV-Test. Personally, I am glad they went with AV-C over AV-Test, and I don't think there is a need for any vendor (big or small) to be included in tests by all testing orgs.
     
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