AV-Comparatives: Whole Product Dynamic Test (2010)

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  1. Pleonasm

    Pleonasm Registered Member

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    AV-Comparatives has released a new Whole Product Dynamic Test report (see here).

    Let the discussions begin....
     
  2. Arin

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    I'm the first to respond! Er... wait lemme check out the test link first. :p
     
  3. shadek

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    So far, considering price to prevention ratio, Avira seems to be performing best followed up by Norton 2011 edition. Based on the false positives, I am convinced that so far Norton 2011 is the best choice.
     
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  4. clocks

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    I thought Comodo was supposed to be in this round?
     
  5. Thankful

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    AVG continues to impress.
     
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  6. Arin

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    Well done Avira, AVG, F-secure, Panda and Trend Micro (!). I'm suprised to see PC Tools trumping Symantec.

    @IBK

    Can we have the figures as well? The bars make it difficult to compare within the top-tier ones.
     
  7. Pleonasm

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    Apparently, Comodo has the daring to issue a “challenge” to Symantec but lacks the drive to actually participate in an anti-malware comparative? Their “challenge” seems to lack any semblance of seriousness.
     
  8. IBK

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    @Arin: when final/full report will be published, you will see more details.
     
  9. zfactor

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    wow was hoping avast would have done better this time..
     
  10. Ibrad

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    Nice Job Panda, Trend Micro did rather good (in my own personal opinion is is most likely due to its URL filter.)
     
  11. Sherlock_Holmes

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    How come norton has user dependent area in the bar when it makes all the decisions by itself ?
     
  12. pabrate

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    Yep, that's what I've noticed as well.
    Maybe, just maybe it's cause of Download Insight.
    Can't think of anything else.
     
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    prob because of insight since sometimes it pops up and users will have to make the choice to allow or deny the item. so if they deny it then it does not get through
     
  14. lordraiden

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    The final report will be publish in December

    Trend Micro, Panda, AVG and Avira seems to have best protection until now.

    I was specting a little bit more from Norton after all the sponsorship tests by Symantec showing that Norton is the nº1 far away from any competitor, now is with the same score than other 4 AV's (almost 5) and asking the user what Norton should do. Lets see what happens at the end, I still have faith xD

    Trend Micro, what a surprise.
     
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  15. ESS474

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    ESET better than GDATA... lol
     
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    Who knows, maybe Melih got cold feet. :D.

    Thanks.
     
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    It's about time for Eset to start making some strides.

    Thanks.
     
  18. dw426

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    Or it's yet another ego trip. He has a lot of those.
     
  19. qakbot

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    Having used Norton, I think there is a flaw in the test methodology and IBK should take note. When yu download a piece of malware, even if Norton Insight pops up an alerts and asks theuser to allow/block, and you choose allow, SONAR 2 will still analyze the malware and will block it. So technically this should show up as GREEN instead of ORANGE. This is not taken into account in the test.

    So Norton should have been tested by choosing ALLOW on each prompt seen, and if the sample was convicted (by SONAR or whatever else) it should count as a GREEN. If not, it should have been counted as an ORANGE. I am betting, the tests would have shown a lot more Greens than Oranges.

    Pity.. Clementi usually has his testing spot on.
     
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  20. CogitoTesting

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    It is true what you said with regard to Sonar and you are absolutely right when said that IBK should that into account.

    Thanks.
     
  21. qakbot

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    Well he has said that Comodo is the world's best Antivirus. He guarantees it :D so no need to test.

    I mean, if Melih the almighty guarantees it, then who is Andreas Marx or Andreas Clementi or any other tester to contradict his royal high:p ness.
     
  22. IBK

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    sonar works also while it still displays the DownloadInsight box asking for user decision. in the cases where sonar removes the malware, we see it in the logs. if it does not, it is up to the user; yellow.
     
  23. Osaban

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    Avira10, as usual, doing very well. This should once and for all stop all the bickering going on about version10.
     
  24. JerryM

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    My biggest surprise is AVG. It has been mediocre for a long time.
    If Avira did not take 6 hours to scan it would continue to be my choice.

    Regards,
    Jerry
     
  25. CogitoTesting

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    Hi IBK

    Actually it is not all up to the user. Even with a download insight pop-up where the user would chose to click allow, Sonar would still spring into action to analyze the file and detect it as a threat and consequently remove it. In the same token and within the context of an Insight pop-up if the user chooses remove, then insight would have done its job and there would be no need for Sonar to kick in. This is my experience thus far with NIS 2011. In that sense, statistical detection works flawlessly.

    Also when when the user makes a decision on an Insight pop-up it will disappear from view. The Insight pop-up will not stay up while sonar is taking action.

    P.S: I think you got it backward. The Insight pop-up always appears first before Sonar action. I may have misunderstood you. If I did I apologize in advance.

    Thanks.
     
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