AV-Comparatives Retrospective/ProActive Test (Coming Soon)

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  1. fried_oyz

    fried_oyz Registered Member

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    No discussion/speculation on the up-coming test results yet? I'm surprised :D Personally, I feel that if Avira does well again (another ADVANCED+), it will be in real contention for AV of the year. ;)
     
  2. tiagozt

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    Speculation is useless.
    But I see big improvements of F-Secure. Pro-active detection is excelent.
     
  3. MalwareDie

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    The false positive test was done in advance (look at the August report) and Avira got many false positives, so it won't get Advanced+. If the same criterion from the past are used, I think Avira will win.
     
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  4. scrtsqurrl

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    I hope to see NOD32 storm the charts.
    Lately I decided to use Avast! Home Edition and it is :thumb:
     
  5. vijayind

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    Kasperky has had a heuristic upgrade, so maybe it will climb up as well.
     
  6. MalwareDie

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    The test uses an outdated version so I doubt that.
     
  7. emperordarius

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    And the heuristic engine is still beta..
     
  8. gery

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    I wonder if AVG will doany better
     
  9. Zombini

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    I am sure a lot of vendors are going to get penalized for too many FPs. These FPs are getting out of control from heuristics engines.
     
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    Is it going to be out on the 1st of December or later ?
     
  11. Thankful

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    The report is out !!
     
  12. Fly

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    Strange that the only product doing well in that test regarding handling malicious scripts is that Microsoft antimalware program !

    I'm not quite sure if I understand this test though. It's 'on demand' and proactive/retrospective, how well does that compare to real-time protection ?

    I know I've asked this before, but I won't do an extensive search on this forum to find an answer to what exactly retrospective/proactive is. Anyone with a good answer ?

    Anyway, some interesting stuff to read.

    These tests can always be criticized for good reasons, but at least one in particular.

    For McAfee Virusscan 12 was tested, while the most current home edition is Virusscan 13. And Kaspersky was tested with it's 2009 version !
     
  13. Baz_kasp

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    Strange that the only product doing well in that test regarding handling malicious scripts is that Microsoft antimalware program !

    I think that will change by teh next comparatives for at least one vendor :)
     
  14. progress

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    I'm surprised, F-Secure is going downhill ... o_O

    AVG got standard :)
     
  15. denniz

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    The testers used the updates and definitions from the latest on-demand test (which was on the 4th of August 2008 ). After that they didn't update the definitions for 4 weeks. During the next 4 weeks they collected new malware. Then the testers test how good an antivirus product does with 4 week old definitions on the malware they collected after they stopped updating the definitions.

    In short:
    1) on the 4th of August they ran an on-demand test with the latest malware definitions at that time.
    2) on the 4th of August they stopped updating the definitions.
    3) they then collected new malware between the 4th of August and the 31th of August.
    4) on the 1st of September they did an on-demand scan with 4 week old definitions which they took from the 4th of August.
     
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  16. fried_oyz

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    Kaspersky has done well! And it will probably do even better after the new emulator is released. :cool:
     
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    doing well in FP is not good:thumbd:
     
  18. vijayind

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    Is that McAfee with Artemis ? Or has it got ADVANCED without Artemis ?
     
  19. vijayind

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    GData and Avast do just as well against Script Malware.

    So it seems Avast and MS engines are better tuned to malicious scripts.
     
  20. RejZoR

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    Well, false positives or not, i prefer to have few more FP's than something not detected. It's always easier to report false positives than clean the mess when real crap hits the fan...
     
  21. ASpace

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    , said the knowledgable IT specialist .


    The average Joe (note - blond) , who has no idea of what a button is , prefers to see quite a lot red alerts and when his favourite antivirus displays ...
    "Warning!" Viu-Viu-Viu!!! "Attention , please .... A virus has been detected.
    C:\Windows\explorer.exe is Not-a-virus/W32.Adware.BlondJoe.AQ . Please , select Yes to delete it "
    And since the average blond Joe completely trusts his AV , he pressed Yes ... voalla ,and after next reboot he had to call the kowledgable technician RejZoR and pay him 50 bucks because Joe has just been left without graphical interface
     
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  22. progress

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    I absolutely agree, something like that happened to my girlfriends machine :rolleyes:
     
  23. lodore

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    Hello,
    True but the emulator in beta atm will reduce fp's and also increase detection. so wont be an issue soon. I have heuristics on high and haven't had an FP yet. Considering how long KL heuristics have been out they are pretty darn good. heuristics came in with the KL version 7 line. Well its always had heuristics but they have been improved a lot since version 7.
     
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  24. rdsu

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    Great!!! :D I absolutely agree with your point...

    Some people thinks that everyone know something about this subject... :rolleyes:
     
  25. Baz_kasp

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    I don't recall seeing any core windows components detected amongst the false positive files in the august test :)


    Just some random apps I haven't heard about, and false positives seemed to be more of an issue around the time of the last test than now.
     
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