Anyone notice any slowdown when running OA++ with other AV?

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  1. GrammatonCleric

    GrammatonCleric Registered Member

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    OA states that one can use the anti-malware scanner with other 3rd party AV's but the question is:
    What is the resource impact of using the OA++ AntiMalware scanner along with other AV like Nod32?
     
  2. J_L

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    Re: Anyone notice any slowdown when running A++ with other AV?

    Same general rules apply on this: don't run 2 AVs at the same time (at least on the same areas), unless you want incompatibilities and a buggy system.
     
  3. 1chaoticadult

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    Re: Anyone notice any slowdown when running A++ with other AV?

    Thats true in most cases but with OA++ you can use another antivirus with it, this is even stated by Emsisoft themselves. OA++ doesn't function like other antivirus. I have used OA++ and Avast together successfully before.
     
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    Re: Anyone notice any slowdown when running A++ with other AV?

    http://www1.emsisoft.com/en/info/oa/KF-AV.html
     
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    Re: Anyone notice any slowdown when running A++ with other AV?

    A part you forgot.

     
  6. tempnexus

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    Re: Anyone notice any slowdown when running A++ with other AV?


    Exactly so the question is?
    Does it actually impact any resources or slows down the system or is it as transparent as mamutu?

    I am about to shellout some cash for the full featured version and I don't know if I should go with Premium or ++ I have nod32 as an AV and Mamutu allready.
     
  7. J_L

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    Re: Anyone notice any slowdown when running A++ with other AV?

    So it's on-execution, not on-access. In this case, it can be compatible, my mistake.
     
  8. Peter2150

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    Re: Anyone notice any slowdown when running A++ with other AV?

    Actually it's not even on-execution. If a program is trusted it isn't scanned when executed. The difference in resources when running isn't noticeable.

    Pete
     
  9. Spooony

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    Re: Anyone notice any slowdown when running A with other AV?

    I used Nod and Online Armor together and ended up removing nod. Nod was incompatible with it or the other way around. Dunno if its being fixed yet as it was a while ago but you know how things go one product blame the other and no one resolves the issue.
     
  10. Corno

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    Nod is the only AV that did cause trouble with OA, but that was 2 years ago.
     
  11. Fabian Wosar

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    I just went through the reports in the forum and via mail and there have been no reported incompatibilities between NOD32 and OA++.
     
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    Good to know Fabian, Thanks..
     
  13. alex_s

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    Fabian, support forum is not too reliable source, most people do not post there, though this is the only one you have. Actually there is a million of scenarios where the two competing programs can clash with each other, sometimes even two sided efforts can't help to avoid it fast. In the past OA and NOD had had a lot of compatibility issues and there is not just a single guarantee that that they don't have it currently or will not have in the future. So, if you pretend to be a trustful person you need to say: "guys, I have no idea what does happen there, but I'll try to investigate".
     
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  14. Fabian Wosar

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    You are plain and simply wrong. There are other support resources as well like the support ticket system in the Customer Center, Live Chat, WinQual or the support emails. The current split of Online Armor support cases is currently roughly 60% forum and 40% other methods.

    I don't pretend. I never claimed there are no possible interactions between Online Armor and NOD32 because given the complexity of both products there most likely are. The question is whether or not those interactions will have a noticeable negative impact on a user's system and so far there were none reported using the support channels I mentioned above, which is exactly what I said in my first reply.
     
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  15. alex_s

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    Do you have something more thoughtful to say ?

    PS. BTW. Don't you feel a difference between a freedom to say what you think and requirement to say what you must ? :)
     
  16. Fabian Wosar

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    Trust me ... I would prefer doing something productive instead of having to go around correcting the half-truths spread by a disgruntled person.

    I always say what I think. And yes, it got me into trouble quite a few times.
     
  17. alex_s

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    I'm afraid nobody can guarantee anything in this situation. Third party security products use not documented means to achieve their goal. While most vendors try to make their products as much compatible with the other products as possible, in a general case this is just impossible. This is why trustful vendors do not recommend to use several security products simultaneously. And even if some combination works for you or for somebody else at the moment, any update can unexpectedly change it.
     
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    Yes Alex, I have something to say and I have not only the freedom but the obligation to say this:
    As a paying customer, I was frustrated at your careless attitude and arrogance. You rejected the concept that pre-planning would produce a much better product. As a result, during your last days at Emsi, there were problems. And as a paying customer I complained. I doubt that I was the only one.

    You were the reason for your dismissal. Not me for complaining, not Emsi for listening to me and others. Just you.

    The worst examples of your arrogance were when you claimed to use the "extreme programming" methodology, and you stated that you'd rather program than listen to your customers. I'll paraphrase and suggest "extremely poor programming" was more appropriate (and may still be if you refuse to learn from your mistakes). And I expected, as a paying customer, to be heard and treated respectfully, not dismissed as simply an annoyance to you.

    Since you "left", Emsi has done a very good job of cleaning up the mess you "left" in their house.

    It's time for you to do the same, clean up your life and your attitude. The first step is to admit that you're the problem. Then after the anguish and anger phases, you can finally find enlightenment and move on, as, I hope, a much happier and wiser man.
     
  19. alex_s

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    I believe careless attitude is when a vendor says "I just went through the reports in the forum and via mail and there have been no reported incompatibilities" instead of saying "guys, between any arbitrary pair of security products there can be compatibility issues, so in general case it is not recommended to use them simultaneously".
    Why I think a vendor's approach is careless ? Because in the worst case a user can get his system crashed and destroyed.

    This is what I try to say concerning the topic.

    As for the rest I'm not sure I understand what you are talking about. I'd say the same to NOD spokesman if he made such a careless statement. I understand, that the marketing reasons often affect what vendors publicly say, in the end their main goal is to sell as many copies as possible, but under no conditions a user should be subjected to avoidable risk.

    We, customers, and they, vendors are on the opposite sides. They, vendors, don't care about us, this is why we must care about each other !

    PS. BTW, what did make you think you know who you are talking to? At this side of the monitor there can be anybody, so I think it would be a good idea to avoid personal stuff :)
     
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    Not to interrupt the flow of the conversation here but I appreciate this thread as it reminded me of 3 points:

    1) All security products take resources both cycles and space in memory and on drives. Some take more than others. For minimum slowdown have zero security.

    2) It reminds me to review my own portfolio of security products to ensure I have set their exclusions one for the other. This minimizes potential conflicts.

    3) Principle of ones (mine) 1 AV, 1FW, 1RT parasite.malware scanner at a time.

    Best regards to all!;)
     
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    I beta test Avast! 6 Pro and Webroot SecureAnywhere (formerly Prevx) and OA++ together in various configurations and don't notice any difference turning the OA++ AV engine on and off. At least these 3 seem to run fine together with no interference (I do exclude Avast! from OA). :) I can only tell whether the OA++ AV is on or off by going to the menu and looking. Haven't tried NOD32 though.
     

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    OA++ and nod antivirus can run together without any problem i use them:thumb: but if i run the new webroot beta and nod antivirus then i got a bluescreen:D
     
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    Careful there J. :D
     
  24. Zyrtec

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    Hi,

    To add some insight to the OP post, I have to add that I had indeed noticed some slow down when OA [free] is running on Windows XP alongside with any anti-virus that scans HTTP traffic. [i.e. the combination of OA (free) + NOD32, Avast!, etc] slows the page rendering by your browser. You have either to disable HTTP traffic scan in your AV or disable OA http traffic scan.

    It might be a bug or else but it's been around long enough.


    By the way, when I mention Avast!, OA, and Win XP it doesn't mean that these are my primary systems and my security applications. I have three old spare PCs at home which I use for software testing purposes ONLY. That's why I know about some software glitches with some applications.

    My main systems run Windows 7 Pro + NOD32 v4.2.71 + Comodo firewall.



    Regards,



    Carlos
     
  25. TheMozart

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    You cannot seriously expect no slowdowns when running such programs!
     
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