Anti-Executable

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by LoneWolf, Apr 12, 2007.

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  1. ErikAlbert

    ErikAlbert Registered Member

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    Rmus,
    I know why AE does all that, I'm just answering the question. :)
     
  2. ErikAlbert

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    I got that info from other posts about Anti-Executable. They never gave me examples either.
    Maybe it isn't true, but I don't care because I never get straight answers to my questions, just guesses and opinions.

    Each time, when I ask members, how to infect my computer ON PURPOSE with the killdisk virus or some other malware in order to test my frozen snapshot, I don't get an answer either.
    It must be a big secret to infect your computer on purpose.
    I don't care about that either, what they don't give to me, I will get somewhere else, forums and websites enough on the internet.
     
  3. Rmus

    Rmus Exploit Analyst

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    OK, sorry, it wasn't clear to me.

    -rich
     
  4. Rmus

    Rmus Exploit Analyst

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    I've become very skeptical and cynical about other people's info - in pressing for an answer, I don't get examples either!


    regards,

    -rich

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    "Talking About Security Can Lead To Anxiety, Panic, And Dread...
    Or Cool Assessments, Common Sense And Practical Planning..."
    --Bruce Schneier​
     
  5. ErikAlbert

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    No sweat. I've read the User Manual of AE thoroughly and used/tested it during the full trial period. I only have problems with buying AE, but I'm working on that problem. It can't be a waste of money, because AE is an evergreen software.
     
  6. Rmus

    Rmus Exploit Analyst

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    You've used that expression before - what does it mean?

    regards,

    -rich
     
  7. ErikAlbert

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    It means that AE has an "eternal" life without needing updatings of malware footprints, like scanners.
    I need that kind of softwares in my frozen snapshot, because AE doesn't require GOOD changes, which are also removed during reboot along with BAD changes.
     
  8. lucas1985

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    Erik,
    Have you tried PG (Process Guard) Free?
     
  9. ErikAlbert

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    ProcessGuard is the worst software in combination with FDISR, nothing but errors in copy/updating of snapshots.
    Most FDISR users replaced it with SSM.
     
  10. lucas1985

    lucas1985 Retired Moderator

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    The most annoying thing of computers: incompatibility between software/hardware :(
     
  11. ErikAlbert

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    Say that again.
    Any software that doesn't like FDISR goes, I will never ditch FDISR for any software. FDISR is just too good.
    On the other hand, I'm not a fan of FDISR either, because I miss some features, but there is no competition, so I stick to FDISR until I find something better.
     
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  12. lucas1985

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    FDISR has the upper-hand in your system :D
     
  13. EASTER.2010

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    You think that's bad, and it really is, you should also see what PG leaves behind in the registry and a few other places. Without FD at the time i seem to enjoy some benefits with PG but since discovering FD i wouldn't task it with anything that might cause conflict, it's simply too vital and important a recovery program to risk messing up all those very useful snapshots/archives.
     
  14. aigle

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    Because if for some reason u want to edit the white list, u can,t!
     
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  15. Rmus

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    OK, I see your point, but I'm sure you can understand what a serious vulnerability it would be if a user could access the White List.
     
  16. ErikAlbert

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    That's right, just like scanners :rolleyes: have the upper-hand in many systems, like GOD32 NOD32 and KAV. :D
     
  17. Diprivan

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    How does AE play with software with automatic updates, for example Link scanner / admuncher? Does AE need to be disabled?
     
  18. ErikAlbert

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    I only used AE in a frozen snapshot and a frozen snapshot doesn't allow any change (updatings), but that has nothing to do with AE.

    In a normal environment, I assume, that each installed software can be updated manually or automatically, even when AE is ON, because they are whitelisted. It would be very irritating if that wasn't true and nobody would buy AE.
     
  19. LoneWolf

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    Looks like it might need to be turned off,it does for your anti-virus.
     

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    If u protect it with password then other users will not be able to do it. Only u will be able to do and there might not be a serious vulnerability at all. After all when u add a new software by disabling AE, practicallu u are modifying the white list.
     
  21. BlueZannetti

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    Actually, not really. It depends in detail on how the AV is put together. Note - this is for software updates and generally not signature updates. In my own case, I simply trusted (not pertinent to the update issue) and exempted (this is for the updating) the AV files. If you want to be sure, if there is a software upgrade, disable AE; the worst case outcome is an uninstall/reinstall of the AV with AE disabled.

    Blue
     
  22. LoneWolf

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    Thanks Blue,thats good to know.Now I believe I will try it soon. I will read the user guide more before I do.
    And thank you to
    everyone else for your input and help here.
     
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  23. aigle

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    Ok, let me ask one Q.

    U install AE on a clean PC with AV and FW and then disable windows updates altogether. Now no malware can run on PC.

    I want to ask will this action( disabling windows updates) be haermful or not?
    I guess there should not be any harm.
     
  24. BlueZannetti

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    In some respects, that's probably the preferred configuration. Some Windows updates require running downloaded new exe files which will be blocked. If there are dependencies between an exe and configuration files, I suppose that, in principle, an update of a configuration file could occur while the exe update is blocked and this could have unpredictable results.

    The most stable approach would likely be disabling update, adjusting the Security Center with regards to notifications of Windows update and performing an infrequent manual update with AE disabled.

    Blue
     
  25. aigle

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    Thanks. Manual updates are of course the right option. But I really want to ask that why I should bother for the updates. Afterall they are meant for security and I am alraedy secure.
     
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