Anonymizer

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by careyfarm, Dec 17, 2004.

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  1. careyfarm

    careyfarm Registered Member

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    Can anyone tell me if this software is worth using? I've tried Ghostsurf but it slows everything down too much. Anonymizer has very few configuration choices, it seems it's either on or off. Anyone with experienced insight would be appreciated. THX
     
  2. Paranoid2000

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    Depends what sort of protection you are looking for. Anonymizer encrypts the data as it leaves your PC and sends it to their server - so websites think you're coming from Anonymizer's server and your ISP can only see encrypted traffic (and is therefore unable to log your online activity, which many are now legally required to do).

    Any such system will be slower (due to traffic bottlenecks and the extra processing required) so you have to choose what is more important - privacy or convenience. If you favour privacy, the (long) Don't Fear Internet Anonymity Tools thread will be a valuable read.
     
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    I use it, and it does slow things down a bit. But not too bad.
     
  5. Dazed_and_Confused

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    I also occasionally use JAP as well. It seems to be a little slower than Anon, and not as easy to use. But I understand it might be more secure to some degree.
     
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    Well, I don't use them at the same time. I just like experimenting with different apps. P2k turned me on to JAP. It's not bad, but it does seem to be a little slower.
     
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  8. commodore

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    What i'm wondering is can your isp determine what websites you are visiting while using Anonymizer? It's already known that your isp cannot read the encrypted data going to and from your computer, even when using their most basic service, but what about the websites that you visit? Can your isp determine what websites you are visiting, even though they wouldn't be able to read the data going to and from the sites, while using the basic Anonymizer service?
     
  9. commodore

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    Thanks Spanner, I am not planning on using any anonymizing service in an illegal manner, I just like my privacy. I don't really like the idea of Anonymizer keeping logs though, but it won't kill me either. So if the feds did get my logs, if they even wanted them, it wouldn't be so bad, but I still would prefer the logs to be immediately destroyed as they should be with any true anonymizer service. In fact they should change the name of the service to "ALMOST Anonymous" shouldn't they? Also they have your IP and probably could easily determine who you are with this info along with the logs they keep on your activities, and then if you pay by credit card (instead of money order) they end up with quite a bit of info about you, doesn't seem too anonymous to me. Using other proxies first before accessing Anonmizer, as someone mentioned around here, seems like it would make it way too slow imo. Oh well, I guess it really is "almost anonymous".
     
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    I've had zero succss in even installing Jap. It seems not to want to install the .gip package no matter what I do, so it's pretty much a non-starter.
     
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    The .gip file is just a component for use if problems arise - you should be downloading and running the japsetup.exe file on a Windows system. Have you done this?
     
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    Yes, of course I have. It will not install the core package and the site advises installation of gip.
     
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    If the JAP setup is not working then I would suggest uninstalling it, downloading the Java Runtime Environment separately (I'd suggest using this link) and installing it (note the folder used). Then download the JAP.jar file only (remove anything else JAP-related on your system) and save it to a program folder on your system. Create a shortcut to this file with the following command "<name of your Java Runtime Environment folder>\javaw.exe" -jar "<name of your JAP folder>\JAP.jar" - this should launch JAP.
     
  14. djay

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    jap.gip .

    Hi guys please can any1 upload the file
    (Jap.gip)
    or send it to my email : TheDjay5_AT_hotmail_DOT_com
    because the main site of Jap is Blocked ..
    So a direct link like this

    http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/win/jap.gip :doubt:
    is not useful for me
    Thanx

    edited email addy to prevent harvesting - dog
     
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  15. tuatara

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    What i'm wondering is can your isp determine what websites you are visiting while using Anonymizer? It's already known that your isp cannot read the encrypted data going to and from your computer, even when using their most basic service, but what about the websites that you visit? Can your isp determine what websites you are visiting, even though they wouldn't be able to read the data going to and from the sites, while using the basic Anonymizer service?

    No , they can not see which websites your are visiting while
    you are using anonymizer.

    But neither JAP nor anonymizer protect you from hiding illegal activities.
    for the 'feds' etc.

    Both services (JAP and Anonymizer) work perfect for this.
    The both will not hand over their logfiles , unless the have to by law.

    Anonymizer is a perfect way to hide your websurf data from others,
    that are trying to snoop information from you, for illegal activities.
     
  16. Vikorr

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    Out of curiosity, I read anonymizer's webpage a while back. I seem to remember them saying that they didn't keep logs. Has that changed ? I saw a reference to some legislation in an above post, don't know if that's new or not.

    Personally not interested in using an anon proxy, but still interesting to know the capabilities of them.
     
  17. tuatara

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    First: Anonymizer is in the USA.

    If the 'law' ask to hand-over the log-files they have to , see the thread P2K mentioned.

    Today (after 9-11) they HAVE to keep logfiles.

    It happened before that anon-proxy service companies always told to keep no logfiles, but again and again this is proven to be untrue.

    But does it make any difference for you if the/a gouvernment NSA/CIA/FBI/Mossad/CI/MI6/XKF/BKT etc. etc.
    can watch what you are doing?

    These anon companies will not hand over your information to just any other company because that will be their end of life.

    For the people that really want something to hide, they know ways,to transfer data (encryption and data-hiding) that nobody can de-crypt.
    (except the receiving party of course).

    Anonymizer is a good way to hide your datatransfers from people who
    work on the same network in you building or at your ISP etc.
    Or again, want to exploit your data for illegal activities.
     
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