Analogy? Anti-virus is like a bulletproof vest

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by littleturle, Jul 25, 2012.

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  1. littleturle

    littleturle Registered Member

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    I have used many many anti-virus software in the past, some were free and some were licensed.
    We just upgraded my pc to a more powerful version (reference to my old slow pc) and celebrated wit a couple of friends with some drinks.

    We cracked some jokes about anti-virus software and here was online by my buddy Jason. He said "don't trust any anti-virus, because it is like a bulletproof vest. It does protect the vital part of your body but can never cover all. "

    I'm like... WTF... I'm confused.
     
  2. Dark Shadow

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    The better analogy would be like Bullet resistant because there not bullet prof.Basically what he is saying it may protect you at certain times and in certain areas but things can and will get past it.Depending on the Firepower and Ammo that comes your way.:D
     
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    I'll drink to that!:D
     
  4. Chiron

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    I suppose you could compare it to a bullet-proof vest. However, this vest would have to only be resistant to the particular types of bullets which the company had seen before, and perhaps a few that it thought could be used in the future. However, there would still be a lot of bullets that would get past.

    I don't think I'd feel very safe going into battle with a bulletproof vest like that. Would you?
     
  5. tk55

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    but you would feel "safer" than without one won't you? :)
     
  6. Dark Shadow

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    I feel safer with out one.:thumb:Makes me more concious of my cover
     
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    Bulletproof or not, it's still a vital vest against malware.

    You sure like the naturalist look huh Dave? :D
     
  8. bo elam

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    I do too, feel safer knowing that nothing (AV/HIPS/etc) is conflicting with SBIE.

    Bo
     
  9. Dark Shadow

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    I like the power combination of Antiexcutable - policy based restrictions of AppGuard and system wide virtualiztion of Deepfreeze.
     
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    Ah I see. Let me ask you something Dave, when was the last time you put on a so-called bullet vest, proof vest, only vest whatever? And what brand? Because I think you've confused this malware landscape with some nude beach. You need to put on some clothes buddy. Something like a vest. I mean you cannot go around like that- it's obscene!
     
  11. mack_guy911

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    most of common antivirus + firewall or suite can protect you from 90% and above threats and some very good antivirus 97-99% so if you not virus tester/p2p user/gamer/free or illegal crap-ware downloader and use little common sense you pretty 100% safe :D
     
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    LOL well said Mack. Well I don't use common sense. I've got my trusty WSA for that you see.:D
     
  13. Dark Shadow

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    ESET AV beta 6 when first released some months ago lasted about a week.Then a short test with Kingsoft AV that lasted a few hours.

    Antivirus will not protect me better then what I have already.What I have is fast and never slows down with hours on end of web browsing.No crazy disk I/O from resident scanners.No conflicks.No false positives.

    I used sandboxie alone for years when I first joined wilders and never had infections.Cant say the same from a standalone resident scanner.
     
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    Ah I see. Good for you. :)
     
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    It's more like a surgeon.
     
  16. TonyW

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    As I see it, a Sandboxie user can get infected, but it's contained. Terminate the sandbox and it's gone. The AV approach is supposed to detect before it penetrates the system; with Sandboxie, it already has but is contained to an area separate from rest of system. Some users combine the two approaches.
     
  17. Dark Shadow

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    Right and as long as its contained and not let out its safe..Also the paid sandboxie can be configered so restricted to limit malware from running inside to begin with.If the browser is only allowed to run and access internet it limits what can happen inside SBIE and No access to documents,forced folders,Droped rights etc.

    I am not saying a Antivirus will not keep people safe,what I am saying its not needed to keep people malware free.There is plenty of other options that provide far better protection.However adding Sandboxie + Antivirus makes a very solid combination.
     
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    anti virus is like an antibiotic it will help against common infection
     
  19. Dark Shadow

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    Exactly.
     
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    Antibiotics fight against and destroys bacteria, not virii ;)
     
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    AV is like a fishing net with holes in it. Sometimes you catch a fish, other times it finds its way through.
     
  22. malexous

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    The free version can too.
     
  23. Dark Shadow

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    LOL,thats a good one.:thumb:
     
  24. Dark Shadow

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    Yes you right,it Sure does.
     
  25. littleturle

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    This is cool! I like this too!
     
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