Amazon has finally admitted to investors that it has a counterfeit problem

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    By Marc Bain 5 Feb 2019
     
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    Yes, it's sad. I buy lots less from Amazon than I used to. Their policy about commingled binning for items with a given SKU, regardless of the source, is insane. All counterfeits with packaging that passes the smell test get commingled. So it doesn't matter what seller you buy from. You're just as likely to get counterfeits from actual manufacturers as from counterfeiters. That is, unless the manufacturer jumps through hoops, and pays a bigger cut to Amazon, to get dedicated binning.

    I do get that this isn't Amazon's unique problem. Perhaps more frightening, it's how pharmaceuticals are handled in the US. A manufacturer sells some drug, identified by an NDA number. That's basically a SKU, and it specifies the drug, dosage form, strength, package size, etc. Some hospitals and pharmacies buy directly from manufacturers. Some buy via wholesalers. And there can be multiple layers of wholesalers. So there's opportunity to introduce counterfeits. And stuff gets commingled in the process, according to NDA.

    And it can get stranger. Say a pharmacy goes out of business, or has a fire. Any "undamaged" pharmaceuticals get sold on "grey markets". Or sometimes jerks introduce counterfeits. Or repackage stuff in counterfeited packaging, posing as a higher dose. And eventually all this stuff ends up in hospitals and pharmacies, who have no clue about provenance. If it's the right NDA, and not expired, and looks OK enough, it gets dispensed.

    It's a hard problem. The pharmaceutical industry has been introducing RFID tracking. And probably now blockchain signing, or whatever. That's probably the only viable option for everything. Every object has an identity, which you can verify back to the manufacturer.
     
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    Amazon caught selling counterfeits of publisher’s computer books—again
     
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    Paging Big Brother: In Amazon’s Bookstore, Orwell Gets a Rewrite
    As fake and illegitimate texts proliferate online, books are becoming a form of misinformation
    August 19, 2019

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/technology/amazon-orwell-1984.html
     
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    This has been my concern with electronic books from the beginning. Once they are no longer printing books they can rewrite history any way they would like and there is nothing you can do about it. If anyone even notices. I know they can introduce changes in reprints of print books as well but that is far more likely to be noticed.
     
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    That's happened ~forever, even before there was writing. And it's prevalent wherever societies are especially dogmatic.

    So sure, it's easier for digital stuff. But detecting changes is also much easier for digital stuff.
     
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    Amazon is reportedly listing thousands of unsafe or banned products
    A new investigation finds thousands of unsafe products for sale
    August 23, 2019

    https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/23/...third-party-unsafe-banned-products-wsj-report
     
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    Ummmm:

    "Amazon can be held liable for third-party seller products: U.S. appeals court..."

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ller-products-u-s-appeals-court-idUSKCN1TY2HM
     
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    Senators demand answers from Amazon about unsafe products
    August 29, 2019
    https://www.engadget.com/2019/08/29/senators-amazon-unsafe-products-letter/
     
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    Amazon sites in France and India should be added to US counterfeit watchlist, says apparel trade group
     
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    "How Amazon’s quest for more, cheaper products has resulted in a flea market of fakes

    Former executives say e-commerce giant, which last year spent $400 million fighting fraud and abuse, has prioritized its broad selection over anti-counterfeiting...

    The continued abundance of counterfeit goods on the site is the result of Amazon’s decisions to prioritize a broad selection of products and cheaper prices over the deployment of aggressive technologies and policies that could further stem the problem, according to former executives and outside consultants. Amazon relies on brands to let the company know about frauds, but even when the company has custody of counterfeit items, it doesn’t always take action. Scads of counterfeit products ...land in Amazon warehouses before they’re shipped to consumers. But Amazon very rarely inspects them for authenticity..."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/tech...aper-products-has-resulted-flea-market-fakes/
     
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    Amazon to ramp up counterfeit reporting to law enforcement
     
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    "U.S. Signals Crackdown on Counterfeit Goods Sold Online

    Trump administration targets e-commerce operators with broader enforcement in effort to compel companies’ help rooting out fakes

    WASHINGTON—The Trump administration is moving to curb the sale of imported counterfeit goods over the internet, warning electronic commerce platforms and warehouse operators of greater scrutiny and penalties if they don’t help ferret out fakes.

    The Department of Homeland Security is set to release a report Friday outlining its immediate actions and longer-term goals for enlisting e-commerce players to combat counterfeit products that officials say undermine U.S. technology and manufacturing,brick-and-mortar stores..."

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-signals-crackdown-on-counterfeit-goods-sold-online-11579820400
     
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    without paywall:
    US announces crackdown on counterfeit products sold online
    January 24, 2020
    https://thehill.com/policy/technology/479852-us-announces-crackdown-on-counterfeits-online
    Amazon expected to face significant additional costs due to new anti-counterfeiting rules
    January 27, 2020
    https://mspoweruser.com/amazon-expe...l-costs-due-to-new-anti-counterfeiting-rules/
     
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    Trump order seeks to reduce online sales of counterfeits
    February 1, 2020
    https://apnews.com/3ae46016533710ea8340f123c6c81600
     
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    Some third-party merchants on Amazon are putting claims that their goods prevent the coronavirus in product images to bypass detection

    "Amazon vowed to crack down on coronavirus profiteering. Some sellers have figured out loopholes. Some third-party merchants on Amazon are putting claims that their goods prevent the coronavirus in product images to bypass the e-commerce giant’s detection..,."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/tech...=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter
     
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