Looking for input on alternative browser to Firefox (now v111.x) in Linux Mint 20.1. To try on a small number of banks, etc., where Fx - Linux may ? not show ALL objects for one area of a 3rd party vendor's "bill pay" software. Fx doesn't show already scheduled, recurring (future) payments (in "scheduled payments"). Bottom of page says "No scheduled (recurring) payments found," though they exist. All other report data (in same general area) displays OK. Need to see if another Linux browser can display what Fx isn't. It's a pretty recent Fx problem on one bank's site. 3rd party vendor's software could've changed, or a recent Fx version partly broke the site (ver 110, 111). In the past, support requests for Fx got only one suggestion, “try Chrome or Edge.” No discussion. That was when Fx had LOTS more mkt share than now. Now, some businesses may not “support Fx” due to its ever dwindling market share. I can’t run Edge in Linux - even if wanted to. Wouldn’t trust a browser under Wine for financial transactions. And I’m not a Google fan. If Edge, Chrome are eliminated, the remaining browsers have LESS presence than Fx – but could display some things that Fx doesn’t. FYI, I tried a clean Fx 111 profile; no addons to interfere w/ site display. Also turned off all Fx “enhanced tracking protection” on the site(s) in question. I see console errors. Some are about “This page is in Quirks Mode. Page layout may be impacted.” And other errors / warnings. I’m not expert enough to know if the other errors relate to the display issues I see. Suppose I could also try an older Fx version – & another clean profile, as one of the main display issues started a month (or so) ago. Thanks
Ah, I would've suggested to turn off Enhanced Tracking Protection for the site. Too bad that didn't help. If you need to try Edge, you don't need Wine. A Microsoft Edge .deb file is offered for download and installation.
Vivaldi browser would be another alternative. Like Edge, Vivaldi can be installed using a .deb file. How to install Brave is mentioned at https://brave.com/linux/
I use Chromium in Mint 21.1 Cinnamon. It works fine with my bank and all other financial transactions. All of the info on each site is there along with pending payment/deposit info. I am still very new to Linux but I did not need any separate files or Wine to install Chromium, it was listed in the Software Manager but I did have to find it with the search box. I have FF running as well but don't use it very often. JImmy
Maybe Vivaldi does not have big presence, but it is build around same rendering engine as Edge etc Could you provide name or domain of banking site?
Alright, thx to everyone for suggestions. I didn't expect there'd be an Edge package in the Linux repo, but there is. Anyway, changing banks would be more palatable. Except as a test if Edge showed what Fx isn't, it would be "plan (Z)10^6." Chromium / Brave or the others mentioned are worth a try. If firefox keeps losing market share, there'll be lots of sites that don't display 100%. I guess ? it'd be alright to give my bank's URL, but I'm not sure it'd do any good for troubleshooting browser issues. Problem of not displaying recurring scheduled bill payments are seen when logged into a bank account. That page's URL is https://online.smartcu.org/BillPayV2/Scheduled *NOTE: File is attached for above page's source. *Also, Fx console output after trying to view scheduled, recurring payments. As you'll see on the above page, there are 2 (main) source pages for "Scheduled..." * One around Line 5030: https://online.smartcu.org/Areas/BillPayV2/Scripts/legacy/viewmodels/templates/scheduled-payment.min.js?638036603952366075 * One near Line 5053: https://online.smartcu.org/Areas/BillPayV2/Scripts/legacy/viewmodels/pages/scheduled.min.js?638036603950506089 My guess is, the problem may be due to errors in console lines about " No element was passed in, returning null," and the file: https://assets.orb.alkamitech.com/cdn/alkami-iris/2.7.0/iris.min.js After seeing Fx not show scheduled pmts (that do exist), I didn't block any 3rd party scripts, cookies or 3rd party anything - AFAIK. Only if Fx v110 / 111 (linux) default settings would block some things (perhaps dangerous) would any scripts, etc, not have loaded. Must have a financial acct or loan thru the bank, to register for "online banking acct," to actually test a browser's interaction w/ the bill pay software. Of course, accessing the online bill pay "widgets" is JS driven - to launch them. I really don't know, but Mozilla says the DOCTYPE should look like the example below (at their dev page), linked from the console warning about "this page is in quirks mode." https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Quirks_Mode_and_Standards_Mode Code: <!DOCTYPE html> <html lang="en"> <head> <meta charset="UTF-8" /> <title>Hello World!</title> </head> <body></body> </html> Below is the DOCTYPE from the bank's /BillPayV2/Scheduled page, that has the "quirks" message in Fx console. ? Does the difference in indention matter, in this specific case? Code: <!doctype html> <html lang="en-US" class="default"> <head> <title>Credit Union</title> The page source has more farther down (e.g. specifying "UTF-8"), that I assume works OK. Not sure if the syntax diffs could be the reason for Moz "quirks mode" warning?
On Linux, do you use the Brave snap version, of which Brave Software, Inc. says that while it is maintained by Brave Software, it is not yet working as well as the official packages, or do you use the recommended official package repositories version?
No I install it with the terminal from the Brave site. I do use a lot of snaps though. https://brave.com/linux/
Yes, because you use quite a few snaps, I wondered about Brave. But for Brave you use the official package repositories version, as recommended at https://brave.com/linux/. Thanks very much.
You're welcome. Some snaps are fine, Firefox isn't bad, a tiny bit glitchy perhaps. Opera is terrible as a snap, although it's pretty rubbish anyway if you ask me.
Since I installed Kubuntu 22.04, last November, I use Firefox snap. For me, it works very well, I haven't noticed any glitches. And I had no issues with bank sites, luckily. (Off topic - regarding snaps, besides Firefox, I installed Pinta snap, but I haven't used it yet, as I hardly ever need an image editor other than what I can do with Gwenview, or XnView MP portable.)
The only glitch is that I regularly get a pop-up wanting a 'master password', although it clicks off easily enough. Pinta has some small glitches, although GIMP is fine.
