Ain't buying this!!!

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by ttomm1946, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. ttomm1946

    ttomm1946 Registered Member

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esSN2ICsBkI
     
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  2. xxJackxx

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    Despite the fact that I do currently have a security suite installed, i can't disagree with the video. We have gotten by for the last 2 years at work with Windows Defender and the built in stuff and nothing more than an ad blocker and haven't had any real issues to speak of. When I do hear from antivirus (Defender included) it is a false positive deleting legitimate files. I'm sure there are plenty of good people working hard at these AV companies but it is nothing but a feature race. About the time a product gets the bugs worked out it is time for the next year's update and the beta test starts all over again.
     
  3. plat1098

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    Did he kind of flat out say: "Everyone, dump your paid antivirus NOW" ? He also didn't have to say the same thing 50,000 times--it was understood the first 10 times. I use Windows Defender also as a decent foundation w/some tweaks and choice 3rd party standalones, free and pd. Maybe people want convenience and peace of mind in a well-marketed package and think it's worth it. Whatever. The variable isn't what you use as much as how YOU use it. Besides, Windows Defender ain't really "free," you just didn't pay for it in isolation as a point of purchase sale. Sometimes this concept is played up by those who have an ulterior agenda and motive. :cautious:
     
  4. aztony

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    Well I haven't used a paid AV since maybe 2007, and don't ever plan on paying again when there are several good 'so-called free' options to be had. However, I did invest in a good anti-ransomware solution.
     
  5. RockLobster

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    AV in my opinion is an outdated concept. It was fine when the adversary was mischievous hackers.
    It cannot stand against today's threats which are corporate and government initiated, designed in and manufactured, both hardware and software.
    We need an entirely new approach.
    Probably based on compartmentalisation and separation of private data, encryption keys etc from the online system by using offline systems for almost everything.
    Most malware, no matter how well hidden is mitigated when it cannot get the data it wants from your system, onto the internet.
     
  6. mekelek

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    i will surely listen to a redneck that shows 0 knowledge about the topic whatsoever.
     
  7. Joxx

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    Yeap, that's what I noticed first, he knows not what he's talking about.
     
  8. cruelsister

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    Oh My God! The first tip off that this guy's advice is sub-optimal is that he likes HP. The second is dubious advice from his contact in Japan (perhaps it was a language issue). My cat can (and often does) deactivate WD and WF.
     
  9. Buddel

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    I would really like to know what your cat looks like.:D;)
     
  10. Cutting_Edgetech

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    He made a statement at one point that the AV vendors put malware into their own software. I call BS.

    WD, and WF is enough until it isn't. A lot of times it comes down to threat awareness, and luck.

    If you know what you are doing you can use Windows built in protection to protect Windows pretty good. It's just a lot of work to do all the configurations needed. That also includes disabling a lot of unnecessary services running.

    Some home users don't have data on their computers that is worth protecting, but others do. It all depends on the person. I myself have data from projects I have spent the last 2 decades working on so I definitely don't want to lose that data. I have redundant backups of that data, and it's backed up to external sources. I don't trust WD, and WF will do the job.

    If you are a target then WD, and WF will definitely not do the job. Most home users are not targets.
     
  11. Reality

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    Aint buying what? Why don't you at least put a small explanation of what the video link is about.
    From what I can gather from other posters, AV is pretty much a waste of time. Don't like that they can potentially ex-filtrate the name of files on your system. Too nosy for my liking. Haven't used them for years and don't plan on it. I agree with @RockLobster
    Didn't look at the video but I wouldn't rule this out at all.
     
  12. roger_m

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    Let's see, "Anti Virus Software is a huge Scam," so don't use it, because some anonymous guy in Japan told him so. Instead of using antivirus software, use Windows Defender, which is also an antivirus, lol.
     
  13. Buddel

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    Ain't buying what? Anyway, I ain't watching this.
     
  14. plat1098

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    He sez he ain't buying no antivirus. Which he technically did already when he supposedly bought all them thar newfangled gadgets with Windows on em. Yeah, don't watch it, you ain't miss much. Wow, my IQ felt like it slipped a few dozen just now. I need to step away from the computer, nice and slow. :)
     
  15. Buddel

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    Got it. I just hoped the OP would post something meaningful instead of just copying a youtube link.
     
  16. Keatah

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    Yup. My computing experience has improved across the board since I adopted that attitude, back in the dot-com era.
     
  17. RockLobster

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    IMO the guy in the video is pretty much right because AV is gonna protect a computer against known malware only. Windows defender is going to do that already.
    All the other claims AV vendors make about heuristic scanning etc are just BS, simply because, plain common sense says, those who make the complex professional malware we see today already know the capabilities of AV before they start and a big part of creating such malware is to bypass such AV and that is what they do.
     
  18. Reality

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    The only reason I ain't watching it was lack of info from OP in the first place.
     
  19. The Seeker

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    As I take all my security advice from dudes on their front porches, I have no choice but to comply.
     
  20. RockLobster

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    It's a 5 minute vid of some guy saying how they had a lot of computer issues and problems and a Japanese developer told him to get rid of all anti-malware software except what comes with Windows and he did and had no more problems with their computers.
     
  21. Reality

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    What, only 5 mins? Interesting how people stretch things as if it went on for MUCH longer than that.
    Either this is true or it's not. It's true. Period. Even with the latest CPU debacle people would much sooner believe there's nothing in it except a mistake. They can't even smell the stink, much less wonder where it's coming from.
     
  22. Osaban

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    Just a talking head...
     
  23. sukarof

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    I kind of agree. But I often have different antimalware software installed (I like to test things) but my computer runs just fine so that is not the reason I agree. The reason is that it is sufficient enough to just run as a non admin user on windows for the vast majority of people, then on top of that if you use Windows defender you are covered pretty good.
     
  24. TairikuOkami

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    That video is a joke and I can not believe, some people are actually taking it seriously.
    Not to mention, he claims, that all AVs are bad, so he suggest using the worst of them.
     
  25. mekelek

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    would you like the contact to my tinfoil hat reseller? i think you need a new pair.
     
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