Ad industry “deeply concerned” about Safari’s new ad-tracking restrictions

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  1. ronjor

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    The economic model of the internet being the Equifax model, I presume. The one where you don't even use a free product and you still get harmed. Hmmm. Rather similar to other nominally "economic" models which reward those who do not take the risk, and do not correctly value assets, or who steal assets without consent.
     
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    The business model they borrowed from the tv media industry where they lure the user with cheap, gaudy worthless content into viewing the state propaganda they call news and the constant advertising that generates revenue for the stock holders.
     
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    When are these blood suckers going to get it? Even the average internet user has made it known they don't want to be tracked across the net but these leeches persist like a million blowflies.

    Ad targeting cookies? Well, I go one better than Apple - Have NO cookies by default. Allow first party on an as needed basis and FLUSH at the end of site visit.
    - generic ads are never going to be anything other than useless and untimely PERIOD!!
    - targeting me is worse than that - downright creepy o_O and the the last I heard, being in the cross-hairs should have you worried.

    Conclusion
    Ads DONT work on me. I don't want to see ANY stupid dumb pathetic ads. They're a total waste of time - besides, they're one of the worst ways propagate badware and bog down your system.:thumbd:
     
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    The browser I use on my phone flushes cookies, DOM storage, and form data by default when you leave the page. It blocks ads, images and scripting, also by default.
    It has per domain pinning of certificates, image, scripting, cookie and storage settings so you can set it up for regularly visited domains individually if you want to.
    It has no tabs, for security reasons.
    Its not perfect but I like it more than most. Its open source only 6.3mb and is called Privacy Browser on f-droid.
     
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    Apple responds to ad group’s criticism of Safari cookie blocking
     
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    Great decision by Apple :thumb:
     
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    The internet ad people complaing about ad blocking is like car thieves complaining about imobilizers.
    They may think everyone has forgotten how they created their market but I haven't.
    They did it by exploiting and abusing browser functionality like cookies, the purpose of which was for the browser to store site preferences so when you go back to that site it remembers you.
    To misuse them to track people across multiple domains is as much an abuse of the browser technology as a worm is an abuse of email technology or a virus is an abuse of the operating system.
    The funny thing is, these bottom feeding malware ad tracking creators have been doing it for so long they have convinced themselves it is legitimate business practice and they therefore have the right to complain when something interferes with it!!
    Well you know what, doubleclick or whatever you call yourselves your business practices are about as legit as malware creators, you are criminals, you need to shut ****up and crawl back under your rock.
     
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    What he said.
     
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    +1
     
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    This is really just another example of "hackers gone bad". Except here, instead of going to jail, they've taken over the Web, and become rich in the process.
     
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    Yes and what makes it worse is they did it in collusion with the big names in the tech industry that we all so naively trusted.
     
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    Right, and now they're taking over society :eek: Remember Cambridge Analytics, Brexit, Trump, etc? So I've been wondering, Zuckerberg has this thing about "Cambridge". Is he part of Cambridge Analytics? They did start out working with Facebook data, after all.
     
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    Im hoping Firefox, Edge and Chrome will follow Apple.
     
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    Well, Google is setting up their own "adblocker"...
     
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