A Dozen 24H2 Bluescreens On My Dell 11

Has Microsoft totally lost their mind? Honestly i never in all the years of running Windows EVER had so many BlueScreens in my life than today. All i did was first use the Dell 11 Home Laptop Windows Update to install over my already laid in Windows 11 with ALL updates.

It would reach one point and then complain it didn't have enough space and insert a UFD, which i did, with more than the space than it griped about. Flickered than PooF! BSOD. I rebooted and rebooted several times and it simply kept on BSOD.

Then i tried to use a 24H2 Upgrade ISO burned to a UFD, same thing AGAIN! Continuously!

I mean i never seen such irresponsibility. I am on a NEW Dell that meets ALL specifications!


I eventually threw in the towel and restored a good recent backup image just to end that madness. I searched the Google today and there are quite a lot of the same things happening on various brands such as ASUS for one, Apparently Western Digital had to issue a SSD update for their chip to finally resolve their machines constantly blue screening. Not sure if that helped those users or not.

I am on a DELL and i not seen any issue problem releases from DELL needed.

Microsoft is really gone LOUSY on this Upgrade. I am quite content just to keep my Windows 11 WITHOUT that corroded 24H2.

https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/22/windows_24h2_update_bsod/

 

PC Makers (Brands) should DEMAND Microsoft STOP interfering with their Hardware (chips/internal electronics) or risk them turning strictly to installing Linux to market. As is been already publicized recently, Windows can & will malfunction as happened when a global update of CrowdStrike update brought down wide ranging systems with a flaw in their own update.

I am furious over this situation today and just drives my own ambition to transition over to Linux exclusively since MS is obviously NOT doing the serious improvements necessary nor even offer their O/S a built in backup failsafe. Instead of cramming multiple spy code in the guise of AI (Co-Pilot) and other risks to operational stability, they prove they are failing their flagship products and disrupting normal operations shoving out as an Upgrade garbage that BORKS windows so often.

Windows 11 still shows in Control Panel under Backup and Restore WINDOWS 7!

They must be using rookies and kids toying with Windows anymore because a professional engineering staff would never allow such inadequate updates/code to the public without qualifying ABSOLUTE firm reliable addition to the operating systems.

Further, the Monopoly which is Microsoft should be investigated by the Government and busted up FINALLY, to encourage proper competition (and better choices) than this clown run Monopoly that keeps them doing whatever the he** they want on their disruptive terms on users.

A dozen (maybe more BSOD) today was the lamest ever experienced by me personally and ridiculous to say the least.

You work years getting Windows into a smooth proper running computer only for those fools to ruin it and force you to CLEAN install destroying paid softwares and upsetting your entire balance you spend much effort to fine tune for business or personal purposes.\

 

Windows 24H2 Updates with lots of trouble

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...-trouble/430146f4-5501-4cea-8ba2-f583c6a1cb0f

 

I have found 24H2 to have many issues. I have had to restore disk images on 3 machines. I have just given up on it, it is clearly broken for many people.

 

@xxJackxx - In all my life beginning from Windows 98, i have never seen such a horrific ordeal such as this what was experienced yesterday. I might could understand those issues on unsupported hardware and those workarounds, but this machine already is ONLY had Windows 11 already and no carry over from 10 etc. It makes me sick to my guts how a O/S company which is been around long as MS would release out an Upgrade which clearly is by far and away the worse yet.

Over the stretch of many years i only ever occasionally experienced BSOD and those were usually some driver issue easily and quickly resolved. But what i experienced simply doing a Feature Upgrade released to my machine after a few weeks of waiting for it, was ridiculous. Even AFTER i was able to reach the GUI without 24H2 unable to fully install, still laced my machine with constant BSOD's with no recourse except to RESTORE a good pre-try Image Backup.

Whoever the bunch is in charge of 24H2 upgrade obviously are not software engineers of this product release, and frankly shouldn't even be anywhere near it ever again. I wish i could chuckle and say i was exaggerating, but i counted 12 BSOD (if not more) until the frustration was too much.

It was like MS is on-purpose trying to destroy the machines with this feckless upgrade

 

I think they are trying hard to stop people from installing it on unsupported hardware but I would guess that the things they are doing to accomplish that are spilling over to legitimate hardware.

 

Which seems to lend to a fact of panic on their end perhaps.

There's no reason why a system which already meets ALL specs such as a DELL 11 Home System, would encounter multiple ongoing BSOD's even after aborting the attempt which was doing BSOD's just trying to install it beforehand, and yet it WAS and it wouldn't stop.

Which made no other choice possible but to Restore an Image which i took the foresight to make in advance before testing this now obvious destructive 24H2 Upgrade.

I can't possibly imagine the headaches of system administrators who use their systems for conducting market/other business must be going through if the same thing is also crippling their previously well running Windows O/S's before running the Upgrade.

 

That would be me. It's the most troublesome upgrade I've ever dealt with.

 

I completely understand that. Currently i am even have difficulty restoring FULLY my Restore Backup since the 24H2 attempt also is toasted and UNALLOCATED a partition which previously was with data. I'm having to (all over again) Restore NOT FULL DISK, but Partition Restore using SECTOR by SECTOR to hopefully regain the entire DISK as it was before that Destructive 24H2 mangled the previously balanced arrangements of ALL partitions.

 

has dell approved 24H2 for your hardware? if not, fail.
i read another issues where dell has not approved 24h2 for a machine and now trouble is on the run.
did you upgrade yourself?

 

@xxJackxx -By some MIRACLE meaning Hasleo Backup Suite image restore, i was able to successfully Restore my Dell Inspirion 11 Home to a nearest Incremental Backup (BUT NOT THE MOST RECENT), HOWEVER since that Incremental WAS made just before attempting 24H2, i was able to COPY desktop files of that original image to the present Restored Condition via using Hasleo's MOUNT IMAGE Feature.

In this instance a genuine bonified Life Saver.

I will never trust Microsoft Upgrades again no matter if i have to keep restoring images to circumvent their Garbage Releases AND Forced Spyware. ONLY MICROSOFT DEFENDER UPDATES. They almost cost me over a years worth of documents, refinements and all the long days & nights of effort that goes into a Normal Computing Experience.

MICROSOFT IS DESTRUCTIVE - Constant backups at least DAILY are your only way.

Is it any wonder that i long been and still am a Windows 8.1 user when not monkeying with this 11 series.
I do have Windows 10 but it too is been flawless as 8.1

 

Absolutely. It's the first thing I do in the morning. Good to hear you recovered some files.

 

your choice, your words, your rants. i never had any trouble for real. last was a preview update, but that need to enabled by me, so my bad. currently 24h2 is in its kinder shoes and not ready, thats why it is rolled out in stages. dont force it, my advise. and: stay away from 24h2 for the next year. if you hate microsoft, you should focus on a linux instead windows. glad that your issues is hand made and only single drop one in the ocean of 24h2 upgrades.

 

Well @xxJackxx yes and it wasn't looking well at all for the better part of this morning. It's pretty bad when you can't even get a Backup Image to overlay and replace what that 24H2 did to the partition situation. I kept getting Restore Failed several times, that just doesn't happen from my experience unless your Backup Image is corrupted. So when i began to Restore single partition beginning with the C:\ partition, that one at least made it possible to boot up into a previous Windows albeit NOT near recent. Then selected a Incremental almost most recent, after 2 failures, it finally DID attach. Took 3 tries.

At any rate i have copied files from the MOST RECENT Inc and now am Imaging anew, after regular update catching up to 23H2 again.

This is really something i never expected like something i have never seen before. Now things are recovered that's it for the foreseeable future from their pathetic employees and overseer's who are HORRIBLE IMO with this degenerate 24H2 madness.

 

A billion computers running W11 with probably 100's of millions different software configurations, did you really expect that any software was going to run flawlessly on all of them? Hell, 90%would be a good number. Unfortunately your one of the few that has issues and I know how frustrating it can be.

Do you have Shadow Defender installed, it has given me bsod issues in the past?

 

I'm so glad that you asked. I had allowed the 24H2 to uninstall Shadow Defender (knowing i could maybe reinstall it with a workaround),

Since i had to piece my system back together again partition by partition using Sector by Sector Restore, i also have Shadow Defender back normal as always on Windows 11 23H2. No issues with that.

This Big Burp with 24H2 is not a place i ever want to be again. And won't. Nightmarish.

 

REMINDER TO MICROSOFT- https://consumerfed.org/pdfs/antitrustpr.pdf

 

I am now scared of 24H2. I'm on 23H2 W11P on a 10 year old ThinkPad 540P. Is M$ fixing this or do they not care because it's not affecting many users?

 

I've had no problems with 24h2 whatsoever. In fact, the majority of users I know have had no issues with it.

 

EASTER,

That's concerning. Do you have a UEFI system?
Do you create multi-partition backup images? Or Windows partition backup images?

 

Why do we think it's not affecting many users? It's the most troublesome update I've ever worked with, going back to Windows 3.1. And if your hardware is unsupported don't even try, I've seen it fail in 100% of those cases.

 

Without posting a ton of links, it most certainly IS affecting a great deal of users and to my surprise that has been the case for weeks well before my own hair raising ordeal. Which i might add that by some stretch have been able to recover +90% of how it was before 24H2 rendered the most horrible experience i gone through eclipsing malware attacks of years ago.

I never dreamed the fully compatible 11 system of mine would see anymore than the usual small faults which certainly never prevented a smooth complete image restore to remedy. 24H2 certainly is one for the books. I NEVER EVER resort to Sector by Sector Restores, but it was my last chance to salvage the system back intact again. Well, near enough to recover fully now.

Indeed it HAS affected a great many users and likely many more that we just won't hear or read about. Or haven't yet. Personally i don't care to recount it again but rather put it out of mind. The programming gone into that Upgrade Release is faulty for plenty enough users who encounter it.

 

@Brian K - Sorry to reply to your questions late like this, but it's been rather unnerving and cost additional hours and effort to return my Dell 11 system pretty much back on track restored before that 24H2 debacle.

It was like a deliberate MS time bomb even after one of the first Restores permitted it to come into the GUI, only to pop out a BSOD EVEN THEN? Why i asked.

@Brian K -
1. YES it is a UEFI system.
2. I create DISK images-whole disk SINGLE w/standard partitions also backed up of course.

Which makes no sense to me what has happened, or did happen. For the record i been using ONLY Hasleo Backup Suite many months now. Not a single failure with Restores, NOT A ONE!

I took it for granted no biggie, so 24H2 Upgrade is faulty, we just turn on our favorite Image Program and restore a most recent Image, all is well afterwards as if nothing happened. BUT instead it repeated 3 consecutive Restore Was Not Successful returns. There's where you go into panic mode, at least i did. But what did work was SECTOR by SECTOR restore with the C:\ partition ONLY. But soon after BSOD again. It's only when i performed single Partition Restores (Sector by Sector) to the remaining partitions (apparently damaged by 24H2) that my system returned to a normal functioning state w/o BSOD.

@Brummelchen - In your opening reply/comment by veiled referral made plain something of my RANTS.? I will have you know that i don't personally take any exceptions as to how you interpret posts as you see fit. But i certainly don't open Topic Titles to smear or rant, in fact i rarely open New Topics at all unless it happens to be either something that could cause PC User's distress be it software/hardware or such as that, or to introduce a useful, or potential useful software the forum members might (or might not be) interested in discussing. In Conclusion, this was a very real experience and not one i would wish on anyone else.

 

your cpu is not supported. it might have popcnt because of sse 4.2, but it also needs a tpm 2 module, the 540 has only 1.2
https://thinkwiki.de/T540p
for more you better join a special thinkpad forum.

Easter, sorry, your choice of words is not really a lucky way. you called MS as an "a*hole" "fool" "lousy" company. this thread is fully loaded with anger and frustration. this was and is neither nor helpful from my view. and the informational part got lost. if you want to gather facts were and why 24h2 may fail, than a pure list of facts should be considered.

for crowdstrike, it has no impact on personal machines, none, noppes, nada. its a pure business software. if companies install upgrades without testing - epic fail as ever.

for now i leave you alone, please dont mind me.

 

No mind at all/ But i stand SOLIDLY and now ALWAYS with my references just as they are. Oh, and am NOT ALONE to that.

I have ONLY the facts as they accurately unfolded before my very eyes, in what has for decades been a routine normal Upgrade routine and RESULT spanning decades. 24H2 NOT SO MUCH. In another fact, a very first. Disheartening and disappointing given the age we are in, and already almost 1/4th (25%) into the 21st Century.

You won't mind me