Incremental and Full Backups

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  1. babakan

    babakan Registered Member

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    Can anyone tell me what will happen with these scheduled tasks.

    Every Monday I do a full backup of C:
    On each of the other days of the week I do an incremental backup of C:

    So, the second Monday, and all following Mondays the full backup gets overwritten. Now the incremental backups have no "base". What happens to the incremental backups already there? What happens to the new ones?

    It should be clear what I want to happen, how do I do it?
     
  2. jeremyotten

    jeremyotten Registered Member

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    after the FULL gets overwritten your incrementals are useless.

    We use a week shuffle script with 1 scheduled incremental TrueImage Job. The beauty of an incremental job is when its doesn't find a full. It creates one ;-)

    here's the script

    REM ============== CODE ====================

    @ECHO OFF

    REM ----- IMAGE CONSOLIDATIE SCRIPT V8 ---------------

    REM ----- MADE BY JEREMY OTTEN DATAMEX BREDA BV ------

    REM ----- DATUM: 18-06-2007 --------------------------



    REM ----- STEL SERVERNAAM EN SERVER SHARE IN ---------

    SET NASSERVER=NAS01

    SET IMAGESHARE=IMAGE

    SET SHAREPASSWORD=password



    ECHO DISCONNECT Y: IF EXIST

    IF EXIST "Y:" NET USE Y: /DELETE /YES



    ECHO RENAME IMAGE BACKUP DIR'S....

    NET USE Y: \\%NASSERVER%\%IMAGESHARE% %SHAREPASSWORD%



    IF NOT EXIST "\\%NASSERVER%\%IMAGESHARE%\%COMPUTERNAME%\WEEK1" MD "\\%NASSERVER%\%IMAGESHARE%\%COMPUTERNAME%\WEEK1"

    IF NOT EXIST "\\%NASSERVER%\%IMAGESHARE%\%COMPUTERNAME%\WEEK2" MD "\\%NASSERVER%\%IMAGESHARE%\%COMPUTERNAME%\WEEK2"

    IF NOT EXIST "\\%NASSERVER%\%IMAGESHARE%\%COMPUTERNAME%\WEEK3" MD "\\%NASSERVER%\%IMAGESHARE%\%COMPUTERNAME%\WEEK3"

    IF NOT EXIST "\\%NASSERVER%\%IMAGESHARE%\%COMPUTERNAME%\WEEK4" MD "\\%NASSERVER%\%IMAGESHARE%\%COMPUTERNAME%\WEEK4"



    Y:

    CD %COMPUTERNAME%



    RENAME WEEK1 WEEK1A

    RENAME WEEK2 WEEK2A

    RENAME WEEK3 WEEK3A

    RENAME WEEK4 WEEK4A



    ECHO DONE!



    ECHO SUFFLE IMAGE BACKUP DIR NAMES....

    RENAME WEEK1A WEEK2

    RENAME WEEK2A WEEK3

    RENAME WEEK3A WEEK4

    RENAME WEEK4A WEEK1



    ECHO DONE!



    ECHO MOVE BACK TO C:

    C:



    ECHO DISCONNECT Y: MAPPING

    NET USE Y: /DELETE /YES





    ECHO CLEANOUT OLD WEEK4 (NEW WEEK1 DIR)....

    DEL \\%NASSERVER%\%IMAGESHARE%\%COMPUTERNAME%\WEEK1\*.* /Q





    ECHO DONE!

    REM ============== CODE ====================
     
  3. Acronis Support

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    Hello babakan,

    Thank you for choosing Acronis Disk Backup Software.

    Please notice that with current set of tasks every Monday the full backup will be replaced, and incremental ones will be no longer usable. Then, new incrementals will be created according to schedule gradually replacing the old ones.

    You can find the detailed instructions on how to use Acronis True Image in the respective User's Guide.
    Could you please explain exactly what is it and what version of Acronis True Image are you using? You can find the full version name and build number by going to Help -> About... menu in the main program window.

    Thank you.
    --
    Marat Setdikov
     
  4. babac

    babac Registered Member

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    Hi Jeremy,
    Can you explain where this script has to be written and what does it do exactly?
    Thank you!
     
  5. jeremyotten

    jeremyotten Registered Member

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    This script is used when you write your image on a NAS server (which we use for our customers) but ofcourse you can edit it yourself to work on a external drive.

    This is wat we do with customers.

    1. create 1 incremental schedule everyday at 0600 which writes the images in the WEEK1 folder
    2. once a week at sa 5:55 we run this script. which shuffles week1 to week2 etc...

    This way you will always be able to go back 1 complete month with full and incrementals.

    do you understand?
     
  6. babac

    babac Registered Member

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    HI Jeremy,
    I think I partly understand.As I do not backup on a server but on an internal and external HD, I wonder how I could use such a script.
    Thank you!
     
  7. babakan

    babakan Registered Member

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    I want to do a full backup every Monday and incrementals to it the other 6 days. So on the next Monday the full backup will be replaced and I would like all the existing incrementals to be deleted to start the process over. I assume the old incrementals would be useless when the full is replaced.

    I have TI 9.0 3677
     
  8. shieber

    shieber Registered Member

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    That is correct. You can delete them -- be sure you delete the right ones. If you use Managed Backup Locations, ATI will take care of deleting old stuff for you. Oddly, when a new full is made the orphaned incs are left behind but are overwritten as subsequent incs are made. I don't know why ATI works this way but it does, and it works, odd as it is.

    good luck,
    sh

     
  9. babakan

    babakan Registered Member

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    Thanks, sounds OK.
    What is Managed Backup Locations? I don't see that in the menu. I am using TI 9.


     
  10. thomasjk

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    Its only available in TI10.
     
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