nod32 or avira?

...so does Mercurie. The umberlla. I hated that thing thought it was the most stupid icon ever. But now...that darn thing grew on me Now I would hate to see it go. That thing is their icon, their symbol of quality protection. I would now miss it and would be sad to see it gone. When you reboot pop! their goes the umbrella.

As to the real topic here (sorry ) I think both these are excellent AVs. Isn't the premium Avira cheaper? Why pay more if it is, since they are both excellent.

 

Thanks - but I wasn't running the free version, I was running the Premium product using a 30-day demo license key that I received driectly from Avira - so I assume that it was using the paid version's update servers. This is the version I had update problems with. The updates downloaded reliably, but failed at the very end due to one or two files not being downloaded.

So StevieO, I wasn't expecting too much for nothing, I was trying to test the full version before I hand over my hard-earned cash. I am quite prepared to pay for a full-featured commercial AV product, but I would expect a critical feature like updating signatures to work properly.

As my research and contact on the Avira forums showed me, there have been a number of people having the same problem as me, with updates failing due to one or two key update files not downloading. It has been speculated on their forums that the reason could be related to ISPs filtering files that have certain characteristics (eg. like "cmd.exe" as part of the file name), as using ISP's proxy servers or an encrypted proxy has for some people solved the problem. In my case, it may well be due to my ISP using a transparent proxy that I cannot change. In any case, one could argue that it is not Avira's problem - but on the other hand, they have a known issue for some months with their files being filtered that results in failed updates. There does not seem to have been any attempt to solve the problem, apart from suggest that affected users run a third party shareware encrypted proxy tool.

I will not comment further as I don't want to put too much emphasis on my slightly negative experience, when in fact most people will not experience this problem. I am now trialling NOD and have received all updates for a few days without a hitch.

 

Well, I have never had a issue with updating. But do recall numerous vendors have had issues with things like this from time to time.

 

Hello OP EQ2,

NOD or AVIRA? -> Either. Both exceptional. After installing them, you will most likely forget they're even there. Except for the task bar icon.

VBA32 -> Haven't tried it yet, but I've been watching its progress for a while and seems to me like it's continualy improving. I think it may well be a serious candidate.

EDIT: As for heuristics, head straight to AV-Comparatives, users don't know the heck about it.

Regarding that icon war from the midddle of this thread, I really like this stylish collection of letters "N" and "O" from NOD. BTW, please, that just reminds me, DOES ANYONE has any idea where can i find an icon or a pic of lettter "D" in a NOD style? So I can complete the collection and enjoy . I'll be much obliged for that. Thank you, and excuses to mod for the OT request.

 

Ladies and Gentlemen: It's the reason we can choose between Coke, Pepsi, etc., just like Chevy, Ford, Toyota, etc.

W E H A V E C H O I C E S - How unique!

 

Both, and add Kav, F- Prot, Dr. Web, Norton, F Secure, Bitdefender, Avk, based on what 98 percent of us, really need, any of these will work.

 

re: VBA32 trial.

Tests indicate it does have rather higher than normal FPs, but in one year I've only experienced one FP.

 

Misread and buying new glasses.

 

I think my last post misled. Pls re-read.
HiTech_boy's quote was in response to Lodore's interest in trialing VBA32.
He was panning VBA32, not Avira.

 

Actually you are right, so I am editing my post. He is a lot like me and excited about what is coming next week for Eset, and he rightfully should be. Thank you for pointing that out.

 

KAV>NOD32>Avira

 

Hi Metal425,

Thanks for the reply. I agree that changes have been made in Avira, and will probably try the suite some time. Right now the AV is running well, and I want to complete the trial. In reality I think that the Premium plus LnS will do what I want, assuming it continues to run well.

I like NOD, and it was totally trouble free on both the laptop, and the deskkop, whuich I have it on now. I admit that, right or wrong, I like the somewhat higher detection rates of KAV and Avira. It will be interesting to see how the new version and suiteof NOD perform, especially in the number of bugs.

I admit to having some problems with this machine and a couple of
AVs; KAV and F-Secure. On the other hand, NOD, Avast, F-Prot, and so far Avira do well.

Thanks again for the reply.
Best, Jerry

 

Try this combo then,
NOD32+Comodo+Prevx1,or SSM

Best Regards,
Matt

 

i think i will use nod32,in my opinion nod32 is much better than avira

 

well, i think nod32 is better.
according to my experience, ariva has more false positives......

 

I personally think its a tie but AVIRA has a lot better support and extremely good response time to virus submissions compared to Eset. For this reason, I rate AVIRA higher. Also, AVIRA surpasses Kaspersky in signature detection rates. As of right now, AVIRA probably provides the best protection from malware in the market. There are a few minor bugs with the product, but I've never had any showstoppers with it. Regardless, I don't like the "feel" of the product, but that is my personal opinion.

If you really need an AV that you can set-and-forget and trust that it will keep you protected, get AVIRA. For that matter, my personal experience has showed me that Kaspersky and Eset have both dropped in detection rates.

If you want to pick something outside these two products, I will recommend BitDefender, AVG Anti-Malware and Kaspersky (or KAV clones). These three products nowadays pretty much have the same detection rate as each other, though BitDefender has a very good heuristic engine.

 

Does Avira really surpass Kaspersky in signature detection rates? I always thought it was Avira's heuristic that gave it the edge in detection rates.

 

yes, indeed MalwareDie. Firecat was right. Just a look to the 7 or 8 updates per day Avira has and about 500 malwares added daily (the average) you will see they have strong signature detection rates.

Besides, I see daily 20-30 new malwares for which Avira has very good detections and indeed surpasses KAV in signature detection rates.

Of course, their heuristic engine is also very powerfull... catching about 50 % or more of the new threats.

 

mmm, I dont think so, KAV has much more signatures detection than Avira,

Avira´s high detection rate is based on its agressive heuristic detections...

 

To each their own, I guess. Personally, I find even AVG Anti-Malware to match KAV detection-wise nowadays. AVIRA adds signatures for almost all heuristic detections that are flagged by AntiVir, which leads to a high signature detection rate. I, like pykko, am continually seeing AntiVir detect more than Kaspersky.

 

As a Nod32 user for the last 2 years, I’m currently testing avira premium on two pc's. Its faster and lighter than Nod32

Bottom line....I like this icon…so let’s take this AV…

 

both are decent av's and antivir is really improving atm.
lodore

 

I have both, and Antivir has surpassed them by quite a bit. Stefan is working on the new behavioral stuff, so it is only going to get better.

 

trjam,
Do you mean a behaviour blocker/analyzer (like KAV´s PDM) or a code emulation module (like NOD´s Advanced Heuristics or Norman´s Sandbox)?

 

behaviour heuristics was his wording.