Kaspersky or Nod

NOD32 can be a pain at deleting viruses when you have about 70..lol..since I had to delete them manually, I switched to Kaspersky Anti-Virus, and I'm very happy and NOD32 missed about 2 viruses,which KAV didn't. Also the KAV interface is easier to use. Although I'm not a noob, I still prefer, KAV.

 

Great post KDNeese

Thanks for sharing your experience.

 

In my experience, NOD 32 is as good as Kaspersky at cleaning infected computers.

 

If that's true, it is also able to detect as much infections as KAV, which isn't unfortunately true so far.

Best regards,
Firefighter!

 

yep. KAV detect more viruses than NOD32 but dont forget about NOD32 heuristic. I love both AVs

 

Nope, it could mean that of infections that both AVs recognise they are equally as good at cleaning them. Nothing was mentioned about actual detection.

 

Unfortunately this isn't from real life. Actually ALL the best av:s too misses too much. Even the Av-Comparatives 02-2007 (plus 08-2006) test reports showed that only ONE single engined av was capable to miss LESS than 5 % of samples added AFTER the 08-2006 test and the most single engined av:s tested missed MORE than 10 % of samples added AFTER the 08-2006 test. Not very promising in my mind.

Best regards,
Firefighter!

 

This was my point
Both AVs (and others too) miss some serious stuff. That´s the reality with blacklist scanners.
There are no AV that detects more than 50 % of brand-new specimens.

 

Lucky that we have all those HIPS plus Firefox or Opera to prevent most of these.

Best regards,
Firefighter!

 

As an Active Virus Shield (KAV 6 engine) user I just can't believe that ANY av couldn't clean A SINGLE nasty among hundreds found in a PC to clean!

Best regards,
Firefighter!

 

I've been using NOD for years, very happily... but over the past month, two trojans (not downloaders) got past it. Both I was able to disable myself.

On both occasions, I emailed samples to NOD, and Kaspersky.
Both times, within an hour I received a reply from Kaspersky. In the first case, they added it to their latest update. The other case, which happened 3 days ago, they said it was already in their sigs.

After 2 days, NOD finally updated their sigs to detect Trojan #1.
As of 3 hours ago, the last time I updated NOD, no response, and still no detection of the trojan.

So, I just installed KAV, and it immediately detected the trojan....
Backdoor.Win32.Bifrose.ae... a nasty little keylogger.

Sad, after all these years, to uninstall NOD... I really liked it.
But, their response time is often like a snail, and while I'm very careful, my girlfriend sometimes lapses, and I want the computer secure.
NOD lost my confidence.

 

you shouldnt drop an av because of one occasion,

both nod32 and kaspersky are great AV's and both have their pros aswell as their cons towards each other.

 

Hi Burf,
Did you have any kind of AT application, such as a-squared, AVG AS, or SAS? I would have thought that if NOD did not detect them one of those would.
Best,
Jerry

 

Heuristics mean nothing when it comes to cleaning an infection. In cleaning infected computers on a regular basis, I have found definite signatures much more effective than heuristic detection when it comes to the really nasty stuff. One prime example if the Vundo virus, which NOD seems to never detect (I'm speaking of my own experiences and the computers I've worked on - not in general). Kaspersky does detect it, however. At the same time, neither NOD nor Kaspersky could clean it. I had to use specialized tools to get rid of it. But if we look at the point of infection, Kaspersky would have kept the virus from infecting the computer in the first place, while it seems to be able to get past the heuristics.

 

I think if you cleaned computers on a regular basis as I do, you might change your mind as to which is more important. The fact is, both protection and cleaning are important. In the case I was speaking of, we're talking about a user totally clueless about security, with a broadband connection and no router, software firewall or AV. I also have had the same experience as you, and have never had an infection with NOD. However, after seeing what I see all the time, I'm taking no chances - simply my own personal preference. I still believe NOD is an outstanding AV. As far as prevention, both NOD and Kaspersky offer outstanding protection far above any of the other AVs (my own opinion). I just believe that Kaspersky is more effective in both areas at this point.

 

I had the same problem with Ghostkeylogger 3.80 on my machines last year. I managed to hunt down and send the keylogger installer to NOD, but after nearly a month it hadn't been added.

Ghostkeylogger was in NOD's databes but it didn't detect version 3.80 even with advanced heuristics on.

Kaspersky, on the other hand, gave me a prompt response and I decided to changed both my office's and home licenses to kaspersky. I didn´t even wait for my nod licenses to end.

The problem, as I see it is that NOD support is always talking about priorities, and sometimes takes AGES to add a new signature. But those out there who have a problem with a certain malware can't wait until it reaches their criteria to be considered a priority.

 

Folks, keep this simple. Marcos (ESET´s mod) said the following:
- If you are searching into the web for samples (hobby or whatever else) send them to samples[at]eset[dot]com and they will be added on a priority basis (risk level, number of infected systems, possibility of a generic signature and so on)
- If you are infected by malware not recognized by (or able to bypass) NOD 32, then send a mail to support[at]eset[dot]com. The people at support will contact the guys at the viruslab to produce a signature which will help you.

Don´t forget that Kaspersky has more manpower/resources than ESET and, consequently, a speedier viruslab.

 

You haven't seen us being the first to detect certain fast spreading threats? Also bear in mind that you can urge adding detection for certain malware by contacting Eset's support, in the case of a false positive or an actual threat detection can be added within a couple of hours if not minutes.

 

Of course I know of quite a bunch of examples of new threats/variants when NOD 32 is among the early detectors.

So, my above statement was pretty accurate. Thanks for the ratification.

 

i prefer kaspersky for it's better viruses detection, and im using kis now because it can provide overall protection with reasonable system load

 

This is true . 11 months ago I found two trojans . I submitted them at ~23.00 h and you added them 6 hours later at ~05.00 h . It wasn't mail to Support

Also if sometimes (rarely) NOD32 misses a malware (real one) and I send it to Support , it is added really soon (in the next update) . A client of mine said last week that he submitted a trojan to you and it was added in 15 minutes time .

 

kasperski is **** - between russian programs - antiviruses, many people choose dr.web its true

 

as much as i love dr.web, this comment is funny.

 

thats very interesting for a first post....
can you please explain why?
drweb has a lower detection rate than kaspersky
drweb is a decent av thou.

 

ye i know