NOD32 or Norton

I am not interested in any security suites - if NOD32 isn't available separately, then I will go elsewhere, but definitely not to Symantec (I have a spare licensed copy of KAV 6.0 )

 

fair enough howard, but you came into the thread with comments of norton 2006 which is not what the thread is about, sure, symantec have had problems in the past and people are only too quick to judge new versions of the software.

the norton 2007 range is a big

 

You are right C.S.J. - I didn't read carefully enough and should have kept my thoughts to myself

 

Thanks for info

Probably my fault as howard was replying to me.

 

No to Norton. Gave the NOD to NOD32 and never looked back. Every time I used any Norton product in the past, it gave me some kind of a problem. I swore I'd never use it again and I won't. NOD32 is a breath of fresh air.

 

(In reply to a few posts above) See here's the real issue: twl845 (as well as many, many other people) is totally on the money - maybe Norton '07 is good (perhaps), but for many it's too little too late. Too many years of not listening to their market. Too many years of poorly designed product that in many reported cases hindered a PC in ways a helpful product (as Norton is supposed to be) is not meant to.

So Norton '07 is great - well too late, the horse has bolted from the gate, and is in the next state (and is named Nate).

 

Just try both the Av and use whichever you like. Both provide decent protection. It's as simple as that.

 

Same thing with the company I work for. We dropped Norton around the time 2004 came out. Huge resource usage and pretty average detection. 2006 has better resource usage but detection is still average, at best, and updates only happen once per week.

Trev

 

I would say NOD32, it's faster and doesn't use as much system resources as Norton does. .. Though Norton has improved lately in detection rates.

 

Hi,

Norton used to only update once a week but now released daily defs http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/security_response/definitions.jsp

Cheers

Jlo

 

Isn't that just for the Enterprise version?

 

all these ram usage and detection rates ?

norton has consistently beaten nod32 in detection rates, so i dont know where those posts came from.

at my last check, this thread was relating to 2007 version and not 2006 of nortons software.

also norton uses around 36-40mb on my machine of ram, which is lower than quite a few of the suites, it doesnt slow down the system like previous versions either, and we are forgetting ... nod32 may only use 25mb or there abouts, but nod is just an antivirus so it should take up less when compared with a suite.

note: if the comparison was different, say.. nod32 vs avira, id choose nod32, so trust me when i say, i dont judge purely on 'dection rates' from these sooo called independant tests, thats just my view... a tried and tested one.

 

Still Norton is capable to detect ALL NEW ItW viruses, on the other hand NOD...

Best regards,
Firefighter!

 

OK. I'm gonna try Norton 2007. I last used Norton IS 2005 and then reinstalled Windows and got NOD32 trial. Reason was AV scan took ages and opening UI took a while too. Other than resource problem, I didn't mind Norton.

Also, the updates thing... I believe virus definitions are released daily and they are to be installed manually but LiveUpdate have updates released weekly.

I have another choice: get individual software.

If I like the Norton IS 2007 trial, I'll get a 3-user licence for a year. Then if NOD32 v3.0 comes out and turns out to be better than Norton, then I'll get that. Then if resources are a problem for both, I'll go individual.

Thx,

 

This may turn useful when your trial expires

Merry Christmas !

 

good choice, im sure you will be happy... right choice

 

haha. I tried NOD32 and trial ran out today. Now, I'm trying Norton IS 2007. I only wanted an alternative to Norton coz of resource problem from 2005 but 2007 seems to be better. I have yet to see if I can load CS:S while doing a full sys scan with 2007. I remember this was not possible with 2005.

NOD32 is great but it's only AV atm. There'll be three choices in the future: NOD32 Security Suite v3.0, Norton 360 and Norton IS.

 

So Norton will update defs once a day now? Big whoop! NOD32 updates defs on the fly maybe 4 or 5 times a day (at least while my computer's on).

 

i know there is a big 'updates per day query' but this means jack-**** in my opinion.

dr.web 'sometimes' updates 3 times per hour, yes thats correct but its detection is not as great as a few others, yet norton consistently has a 99% detection rate while nod32 does not, and we must also add that in the recent test someone posted, norton missed nothing yet nod32 missed 1 sample, as did my dr.web.

also, norton had zero false positives in the 2 big tests in 2006 by av comparatives, something they have always played 'god' in.

 

I've been with Nod about 3 yrs. now. No problems whatsoever. Came across it on the web one day and decided to take a chance. Best decision I ever made.

I've used Symantec before. I didn't like the fact that when the version you bought has bugs, they don't seem to want to fix them unless you buy the next version. In the meantime, you're left with a buggy program and have to wait for the next version and put out more money to get a fix.

 

Have to agree with other people here. Based on past experiences with Norton, I will never use it again. Too many issues with bugs, app taking over the computer, BSODS, poor support, no interest listening to customers and it was nearly impossible to remove it fully from the computer.

Horse has left the gate, jumped the fence and left the field altogether.

You sure it missed it, or was it in a wrapper/executable and hadn't been doubleclicked? Or, was it a non-functioning piece of malware/partial code? Need to be sure that a miss is a real miss. If they were executed, might have been caught for Dr Web and NOD32.

 

I'm in the majority of Norton users who had the previously mentioned troubles of bloat, resource hog, slow scan times, and even carried a virus on my system for a week prior to Norton sending updates. The real kick in the teeth was that NAV could detect the virus, but it couldn't remove it. I had to use Pc-illin online virus scanner to remove the virus.

On the other hand, I'm in the minority here who believes in a layered defense when it comes to security. The problem, as I see it, with an all-in-one product such as NIS, KIS, and others is that when the suite is shut down, ALL of your security software is shut down. Obviously this leaves you completely exposed, and in a position that no-one really wants to be in.

I also have problems with the idea of a security suite in that they are a Jack of all Trades, but master of none. The layered defense allows you to choose the best of all the products out there and creates a situation where if one is shut down, you still have the other in place. Chances of them all being shut down is very slim in such an approach.

On the plus side, security suites are good for users who don't fully understand why they need an AV/firewall/malware etc. and in this situation, a suite is better than nothing at all.

Neil

 

GK willington - I agree with you 100%. I once believed in the suite theory and subscribed to ZoneAlarm Security Suite. It was great for a few years until things started to go wrong. At the end I had half the suite disabled because some things didn't work right. Then some smart people convinced me that separate apps is better (if they're good ones) and I started to convert my system. Now I run Comodo firewall, NOD32 AV, and 3 different anti spywares. My system is running like a well oiled machine.

 

i normaly prefer seprates and was ready to just get kav and use comodo but my dad wanted a suite so i got kis6.0=d
lodore

 

well i disagree completly, suites are some of the best security out there at the moment and no stand alones will beat it, the market this year has really gone from standard > advanced PLUS 5 in the suites, sooo many improvements to them and even new companys getting into the suite money spinner.

obviously if you dont need all what is in a suite, go for just an antivirus or whatever, but suites are still the top for security.

at the moment though, im being my router with built in firewall and dr.web, runs well and i feel secure, dont really need the spam on my laptop or the 'application control' etc, so my setup is perfect for what i need.

everyones choice will be different, but with sooo many excellent suites now available, choose one you like.