I need a good *light* defrager

@screamer,
thats because diskeeper 9 is old.
the diskeeper 2007 would be great to try.
but since you got the others then save your money
lodore

 

Very configurable! Light! Easy to use!

You can put the most used files on the outer track (fastest part of disk) of your disk, and the files not accessed for X time on the inner track (slowest part of the disk). This will make your computer faster and also the defrag time...

Doesn't require an extra service to run.

And much more... You should read its home page and help files to see more...

Off course that this program isn't so polished as O&O Defrag or PerfectDisk (Diskeeper is a great s**t), but for a first version are very good and do the job very well...

The incoming versions will have more options for better needs of users and configurations to improve the system defrag...

I have been collect its newsletter with tips, so if someone wants them...

 

Hi, folks: Thanks V_ C for your inputs. I will d/l it and try it out. Thanks.

 

Let me know what will be your experience with it...

 

id choose UltimateDefrag for paid and Contig + Power Defragmenter GUI for freeware.

 

hi screamer

What settings do you find give the best results with UlitmateDefrag?

 

@lodore: I tried Diskeeper 2007 ProPremire, It froze my box up solid. I had to revert to a clean SnapShot

@Kaupp:

This scheme seems to be excellent, but there's lots more to try. If you register during the trial you get a few e-mails w/ tips & tutorials.

Rapid Launching Of All Applications

In this tutorial we teach you how to use UltimateDefrag to speed up the launch of ALL your applications so that they launch with vastly increased speed.

All applications have the extension .EXE also associated with those applications are files with the .DLL extension. EXE stands for executable – meaning this is what executed. DLL is Dynamic Link Library and these are called upon a lot by programs – either at launch or during use.

If you place both your EXE files and DLL files to the High Performance outer tracks – you will be achieving fastest data transfer possible from these files and programs will launch with rapidity and any use that calls on these DLL files will also occur much faster.

In the previous Tutorial you learned to place an entire folder to the outer tracks. If you want it to stay in place then ensure that you still keep that folder in the exclude list. This procedure will make these particular files follow on immediately after the folder you laid out for High performance in the previous lesson.

To do this – please follow this procedure:

1. Select Tools=>Options
2. Under High Performance, place a check next to “Include These File Types”
3. Select Add and scroll down and add .EXE
4. Then Select Add again and add .DLL
5. Select None immediately under High Performance
6. So all that is checked is the “Include These File Types” with EXE and DLL extensions selected.
7. Select OK to go back to the main interface
8. Select Defrag Method Consolidate
9. Select Respect High Performance
10. Select Respect Archive
11. Select Put Directories Close To MFT
12. Select Start

This procedure will perform the Archive Routine and will then place .EXE and .DLL files to the outer tracks. After these are laid out in position a regular consolidate will be performed.



If you like, after you complete this routine, restart your computer and you should immediately sense a far greater level of performance as you launch files. Even your operating system will be more responsive.

Best thing about this is that it really works!!

...screamer

 

Hi, folks: I guess there is no such a perfect application for ALL users. Why? I have been using perfect disk and diskeeper pro premier for some time and have been smooth-sailing, no problems at all. Due to some positive comments of this forum re ultimate defrag, I decided to give it a test drive. Boy, I wish I did not do it. UD hangs at 37% and 7% respectively on two different options. I have to stop the action and then regrettable thing comes after. Upon reboot, machine has to repair hard disk. I know UD is a good app, but not for all, by the same token PD and DK are good enough for me , but not for some people. Just a word of caution, do not play games w/ this type of apps too often. Stick to what you have and do not look around for else.

 

Perman,

What defrag options you used?

 

Screamer, have you run any benchmarks before/after performance benchmarks?

What do you do with the prefetch system of XP - do you turn it off/ignore it, or do you have to consider the prefetch folder in your placement strategy ?

IMHO Ultimate defrag is too much an advanced/geek tool - I want fire and forget tools, so I can be as productive as possible.

Perman, yes you are correct, I have stated it before, you need to pick (any kind of) tool based on your requirements and certain ones will suit different people.

Considering that disc access is random, rarely whole files are read in one go, things like disc caching (and prefetch system of XP) all in real world useage, you are highly unlikey to see any significant performance differences from either mild fragmentation OR advanced file placement strategies.

In another thread a while ago, diskeeper reported a 20% performance loss on my fragmented files, which was 2% of all files - which is mere 0.4% performance loss overall, yes theres are various ways of measuring fragmentation and performance - but it does illustrate how small potential performance gains will be for overall disc usage.

 

For free and light I'd try Auslogics Disk Defrag
http://www.auslogics.com/

I tend to use perfect disk my self but ....

 

@nickr:

"Screamer, have you run any benchmarks before/after performance benchmarks?"

Nick, nothing objective. i just compared the amt of fragmented files after DK9 1.08% and after UD .046%.

"What do you do with the prefetch system of XP - do you turn it off/ignore it, or do you have to consider the prefetch folder in your placement strategy ?"

It was included automatically in the "archive selection" Apps used in last 50Days.

"IMHO Ultimate defrag is too much an advanced/geek tool - I want fire and forget tools, so I can be as productive as possible."

I agree it's an advanced / geek tool, but if you like that kinda thing... --> screamer does

 

You don't select the option to use the layout.ini?
If yes, the files will be placed on the first positions of the disk...

Me too

 

V-C, yes, I do select layout.ini.

 

So, why you talked about the "archive selection" for the prefetch files?

 

I selected both: archive and layout

edit: Oops! my mistake Archive was "not" selected, it was Layout.ini. my bad

...screamer

 

Hi,folks: hi,V_C, first I used defrag fragmented files only, no problems there. Then I tested consolidate w/ all boxes checked, hung at 37%, I stopped it. Then tried recency w/ some boxes checked, hung at 7%, I stopped it again. I decided to reboot machine. During prebooting, pc performed a diskcheck claiming there is an error on disk, then inserting quite few indexing stuff into $SII or $SNN (I can not recall correctly) on file 9. I deleted UD afterwards, but diskeeper would not connect into service, I have to reinstall it. I do not know where did it go wrong. I am very impressed by its technology and I like to try it again, of course only w/ precisive guidance. Thank you for sincere concern. Any hints here are welcomed. BTW, I am not an advanced/geek pc user, so please use a layman's language.

 

@Perman,

Did UD actually freeze or just appear to freeze (no activity for a while)

Reason I ask is: UD appears to have no activity for several minutes then starts up again. When I first installed it, when activity stopped, I terminated the app (via task mngr) and when I re-booted box windows also ran chkdsk. From then on, I just let it complete its task and have had no problems since.

...screamer

 

Hi, folks: hi, screamer: It appears to freeze for 5-7 minutes on each instance. Geez, I wish I knew this temp pause earlier. Are you saying this just a temp hiccup? Not a problem? Thanks.

 

i personally have not noticed such pauses with UltimateDefrag, but i rarely sit and watch the program.

 

"temp hiccup" is a nice way to phrase it

It happend again today when I was trying out a different scheme. Hung for about 3-4mins.

...screamer <--- sits and stares at the screen

 

Maybe it will change the position of some big file...

 

Is The Flexomizer already mentioned?

 

I installed DK 2007 home addition a few days ago on a trial basis to see if I like it. My pc wasn't really fragmented to start with, but DK set itself up quickly and continues to defrag on the fly. I don't even know it's there. Every day I check the log and see how it has eliminated a few hundred more fragments. So far we're at about 13,000 eliminated fragments.

 

i think im gonna ugrade to that soon.
btw service pack one out in january i asked the support.
lodore