which is better EWIDO, BOCLean, CounterSpy, SpySweeper

Discussion in 'other anti-trojan software' started by aacm, Sep 10, 2006.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. mrgigabyte

    mrgigabyte Registered Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2006
    Posts:
    126
    boclean and nod32 have not had anything spyware since and i do scan with spywaredoctor :thumb:
     
  2. aacm

    aacm Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2004
    Posts:
    106
    Location:
    USA
    Well thanks for your responses.. one more question anybody knows this program call SUPERSPYware, I hear is good and strong.
    Thanks
    AACM:shifty:
     
  3. muf

    muf Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2003
    Posts:
    926
    Location:
    Manchester, England
    I trust you mean SuperAntispyware. http://www.superantispyware.com/

    I use it and also SuperAdblocker from the same company. SuperAntispyware is a very nice application. Easy to set up, easy to use and runs very light. The scanner is not the fastest, but it is one of the most thorough. I've noticed in the last two months it is updated pretty much every day or two. http://www.superantispyware.com/definitionupdatehistory.html It's also not very prone to false positives which is very welcome. I used to use PestPatrol and it gave out loads of FP's. You needed to be either Tech savvy or good at Googling to use PestPatrol. lol. Not so with SuperAntispyware. It's easy to use and the lack of FP's mean you are not spending nearly two hours after every scan trying to discypher it's results. Try it. I'm sure you'll like it.

    muf
     
  4. mercurie

    mercurie A Friendly Creature

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2003
    Posts:
    2,448
    Location:
    Sky over the Wilders Forest
    Way back long long ago....:D After doing much research. I narrowed my Av supplement to Pest Patrol and BOClean. It was a tough decision for me at the time as it is still the case I only have so much money for PC security.

    I finally picked BOClean. I do not always make the right choices, but I certainly did that time. ;)
     
  5. Seishin

    Seishin Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2006
    Posts:
    204
    Superantispyware.

    :)
     
  6. aacm

    aacm Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2004
    Posts:
    106
    Location:
    USA
    Yes I mean Superantispyware. Yes I downloaded and It is absulety great.
    Of course it took 45 minutes to go throught my HD. However is great light and easy to set up.

    Mercurie... I try BOClean and it gave me a lot of trouble. I am a IT and I try everything. My system hangs and contact support and couldn't let it run properly. Don't get me wrong... the program looks good and I hear a lot of good things about it.. however in my case was different.. so that is why I was looking into other softwares.. OK :) Thanks
     
  7. mercurie

    mercurie A Friendly Creature

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2003
    Posts:
    2,448
    Location:
    Sky over the Wilders Forest
    I understand if BOClean gave you trouble why you would not want it. I do not have enough knowledge of the rest to offer any help then. Well a little on EWIDO but can not offer a comparison with so little knowlege of the others. :(
     
  8. Londonbeat

    Londonbeat Registered Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2006
    Posts:
    350
    I use BOClean on an old Win 98 and an XP SP2, runs like a dream on both and has protected me many more times than my AV. :) I also use ewido/AVG on-demand, which is an excellent product for free.
     
  9. aacm

    aacm Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2004
    Posts:
    106
    Location:
    USA
    ;;;;;
     
  10. aacm

    aacm Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2004
    Posts:
    106
    Location:
    USA
    No I didn't said I didn't want it
    is just I can't running properly. I will love to have some expirence with it. May be some day I have the time and working with it. I will try again..
    thanks..
     
  11. budfox

    budfox Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Posts:
    103
    AFter running DFK threat simulator...This is easy. AVG killed spydoctor, spy sweaper, and counterspy.

    Dont waste your $$ on the others.
     
  12. muf

    muf Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2003
    Posts:
    926
    Location:
    Manchester, England

    Try throwing 50,000 samples of malware at all of them and see what the results are. Judging any application on how it does against 1 or 2 samples is ridiculous. And I do mean RIDICULOUS!!!

    muf
     
  13. dja2k

    dja2k Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2005
    Posts:
    2,121
    Location:
    South Texas, USA
    Buy BOClean! and.... Why spend money when Spyware Terminator is more than enough to run active or inactive than paying for CounterSpy or Spysweeper for Spy-ware\Ad-ware. Also you don't need to install AVG Antispyware, when you can use Ewido Micro-scanner.

    dja2k
     
  14. btman

    btman Registered Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2006
    Posts:
    576
    AV suppliment?? BOclean is an anti-trojan I had thought. In your signature it says your av is antivir.
     
  15. budfox

    budfox Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Posts:
    103
    Muffy,

    I will tell you what is ridiculous, the fact that Spysweeper and Spy Doc didn't catch DFK and was completely defeated by it.

    Your thought process is narrow minded at best. I am sure that you are one of the ones in the PCmag camp who believe everything that they read, eventhough the writtings are based on advertising dollars.

    If you want to believe the writtings then all of these are about the same...except for the fact that only one passed DFK.

    BTW...have you thrown 50k samples at all of these to come to your strong opinion?
     
  16. muf

    muf Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2003
    Posts:
    926
    Location:
    Manchester, England
    1. No, I don't take much notice of magazine reviews. Only as guide to what application's are available. I trial apps myself, on my system and form my own opinion.

    2. I don't form an opinion on an application based on the fact it doesn't protect against a single threat. In fact I don't form an opinion on any application based on anything less than an extensive test that incorporates either a large number of current prevelant threats or a large collection of current and past threats i.e where I get the 50,000 figure from.

    You found one threat that bypasses a couple of apps. Based on that you formed an opinion that they are rubbish. Fine, each to their own. So when your new favourite gets found wanting in a future test(and it will. As will SD and SS, and most likely a lot of other apps.) you'll jump ship will you? Look for something that passes that one specific test and start using that? You are entitled to that choice. I just think it's ridiculous. But hey, you think i'm ridiculous. Sticks and stones...

    muf
     
  17. pugmug

    pugmug Registered Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2006
    Posts:
    413
    I was thinking this DFK program was more than just a few samples of bad stuff to put your computer security to the test. Am I wrong about this? http://www.morgud.com/interests/security/dfk-threat-simulator-v2.asp Anyway either I am that bad or my computer security is that good as I downloaded and opened DFK and could not get it to run even using their password. Oh well,lol.
     
  18. mercurie

    mercurie A Friendly Creature

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2003
    Posts:
    2,448
    Location:
    Sky over the Wilders Forest
    Yes, that is correct AV supplement.

    BOClean is designed to let AV get the first sniff at a potential nasty. If it passes. BOClean takes a look. If it is on BOCleans list of nasties then it will take action.

    Now a days AVs are getting better at catching trojans. But I would not rely just on AV for trojan and other such malware protections that AV looks the other way on.

    ....therefore it is supplemental protection to your AV. BOClean is not designed to replace AV. See now my meaning? ;)
     
  19. budfox

    budfox Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Posts:
    103
    Muffy..Final.

    I dont need to jump ship due to the fact that I have SpyDoc, AVK, Spysweeper, Counterspy as well as I run a Fortigate 60 hardware firewall/ AV/ IPS box.

    I jump ship only due to changing security needs. Right now exploits are coming via ZeroDay browser flaws, so I am primarily using a sandboxed system and dropmyrights. I also disable windows encryption so that a virus cannot encrypt itself and hide, and I block access to the Admin account from the network. I just use a scanner for piece of mind (AVK/Counterspy v2Beta).

    I have no clue as to why you are against AVK, but for me when Spydoc and Spyweeper totally fail a CURRENT exploit, I have no need for them until they improve. I wont even use them as a on demand scanner.

    Go ahead and run whatever you like....dont really care. I am sure there will be a zero day with your name on it...soon. The only knowledge that I have heard out of you is that I am crazy and that you need (50k old samples) to validate a piece of security software. How about you impress me and this forum with something other then that. What protection you running Muffy? Are you NAT routed? Have scripting blocked? Admin account blocked from the remote side? Is your system hardened beyond the stock XP settings? I wait with baited breath.

    Bis Spater.
     
    Last edited: Oct 25, 2006
  20. muf

    muf Registered Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2003
    Posts:
    926
    Location:
    Manchester, England
    Nice of you to be thinking about me :p


    I never said you were crazy. I said that to judge a product based on it's performance against 1 threat was ridiculous. And I stand by that.


    No, I said a large number of current threats and past threats. I never said 50k old samples.


    Ok, I'm not one to keep you holding your "baited breath". :D
    NAT = No
    Scripting blocked = Yes
    Admin account blocked from the remote side = No
    system hardened beyond the stock XP settings = Yes

    I have disabled all unneccessary services. Dcom, Messenger, UPNP, that sort of stuff. And my setup is no secret as it's on display in the "What is your security setup these days" thread. I use KIS6, BOClean, Regrun Platinum, Prevx1 Pro mode, CyberHawk, Socketshield, CookiePal and Ad Muncher.

    Your last post had some comments that I feel show you certainly know your stuff. I don't intend to offend and if I did then I am sorry about that. But I stand by my belief that judging products on performance against one threat is not fair. There are lots of threats out there and they are ever evolving. Certainly the malware writers will create something that will circumvent security application's. It's how the security vendors react to this that matters. Do they sit there and say "Oh well we don't protect against that" or do they upgrade their software to deal with it. I've used security apps for years and never once dropped them because they failed one test. I give them time to deal with it and if they don't then I change. I have to have some faith at least, don't I?

    All the best,
    muf

    p.s And I presume it's me you are referring to as Muffy is closest to my name. You see muf stands for Manchester United Fan(sorry to all you ManUtd haters out there!), so i'm not sure what the other 'F' and 'Y' denotes. Oh and that's not an invitation to make up something! :p
     
  21. budfox

    budfox Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Posts:
    103
    Then muffy it isnt. Im in the US so im clueless to the football reference. Did have fun watching the world cup though.
     
  22. budfox

    budfox Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Posts:
    103
    Just to let you guys know i have been running coutnerspy v2 beta. It is now my new favorite. When running in paranoid mode, CS even has process control!
    Its like Appdefend with the addition of Antispyware!

    I think that CS will be tough to beat when it goes gold.
     
  23. illukka

    illukka Spyware Fighter

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2003
    Posts:
    633
    Location:
    S.A.V.O
    at first i felt tempted...
     
  24. twl845

    twl845 Registered Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2005
    Posts:
    4,186
    Location:
    USA
    As you know, ewido has been bought out by AVG. The only difference I see is the colors in the layout and ewido replaced with AVG. Ewido took some shots from PC magazine just before the take over, and some people bad mouthed the software. I think it's a good anti spyware app. I also have SS, Ad-Aware and SpywareBlaster. I downloaded it one day right after I had done a scan with SS who said Congratulations you have no spyware. I did a scan with the ewido, and came out with 15 pieces of malware and data miners. I paid for it, and I use it as my running spyware app because it gives you more definition updates, and is light on the resources. Spysweeper does the job, but it's slow to access, and eats resources. I keep it because I have another year left on it, and I use it to look for spyware that one of the others might miss. :)
     
  25. coldplay

    coldplay Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2006
    Posts:
    191
    I had opposite experience concerning to AVG AS and Spy Sweeper :); SS does the job for me.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.