TI 9.0 Build 3677 Direct To DVD Imaging - NO CHANGE!!

I understand your frustration and Acronis should be whacked on the head for releasing the first version that claimed to do direct backup to DVD.

I tried to search for any other post by you but didn't find any.

Can you make an image to another partition on your PC and validate it? If you only have one partition you can still make and validate an archive to it in spite of any warning message if there is sufficient space.

Are you running XP?

What things have you tried?

 

ROF-LMAO~!!!! ​

 

The sole reason why I chose TI

I've been lurking, seeing what others have been doing to get the software working.

Not enough space, besides, I'm wanting to reformat.

Yes

Right now, just trying to do a backup, have tried DVD+R, DVD+RW, would love to be able to use DVD+DL (haha). Backed up 8 discs worth of info, validated ok, totally unreadable.

 

The DVD you created is good. The problem is with Acronis' "Direct Burn" to the DVD. The "Direct Burn" Plug-in can't read it.

Try this.
Copy the file you created to that DVD over to another DVD using a 3rd party program. (Nero, Sonic, Roxio, and etc.) This seems to be the only way to get it to read DVD's.

 

While Acronis support does not walk on water, nor get things right every time, I am impressed by their efforts to respond, and assist, those of us having problems.

Having worked in sales and marketing myself once upon a time, I can appreciate the challenges of balancing the desire to keep up a good front, with openly admitting bugs and mistakes, and doing the best to correct them. We all make mistakes. Even, as we all know too well, that company with the deepest pockets of all, Microsoft.

I weigh honest, on-the-level support much more highly than I do marketing promises. These forums, the regular support from Acronis, and their many obviously dedicated users, are key reasons I am pleased to be using admittedly imperfect software. I'm sticking with Acronis. And sticking around to help make it even better.

I would encourage the forum moderators, however, to put up with the occasional frustrated user who asks, isn't there a better program out there? If you've got the goods, then, a bit of dissent won't sink the ship. Since many of us have come to Acronis for help with a crisis (why else would we need backups?) there will be flared tempers, requests for a lifeline, and frustrated or impatient users along the way. Sort of comes with the territory.

Hopefully, Acronis will continue to take our suggestions, complaints and victories to heart, make the changes needed and include us as much as possible at each step in the revision and adjustment process, by making specific and timely information available to help us all create and restore backups in what is clearly a challenging PC environment.

 

Regarding the refund, have you asked Acronis? This is a classic example of a promise made (burn to DVD directly) that does not function, and should warrant a refund if requested...

Finally, extrenal drives are dropping in price. I got a case for $25 and a 200 GB hard drive for $60. Works great. I know that is not the point, but your data is more important than the principle of the thing....

 

Hello all, first time poster, long time TI user.


I am curious as to this bug for DVD burning that's being discussed here, as i've never been able to get TI to recognize any of my DVDRW drives as "DVDRW" drives for burning -but since i back all images to a network, i've never really been greatly concerned.

As mentioned above, i back up my systems to a network drive (my own home server -currently with a 320GB SATAII drive that i picked up for $99 at the local Best Buy), and then use Nero to burn the image to DVD/DVD-DL which i then use as backup to my network image, and TI has never had a problem reading such a backup if i used it instead of restoring from the network.

I'm looking forward to hearing more about this DVD issue within TI, but i thought i'd post a positive response on this wonderful program before it gets too bogged down with Negativity.

By the way, i've tried nearly every image type program you can imagine in nearly 15+ years of IS support, Ghost used to be all i would touch -until i found TI. It hands down beats Ghost in every function but one -the ability to create a self restore disk (have the imageing program and image on the same media), if they would create/update that 1 part of TI -i'd be estatic!

 

Does Tools, Options, Default Backup Options, Media components help? I've never tried them.

 

Sorry about the delay. been out and about. I'm sure the disks are good, thats why I'm hanging on to them. I'm not sure I'm ready to copy another 8 disks until I'm sure it's going to work. I have not tried the latest build to see if it would work, since it appears nothing has been fixed.

 

I had trouble with Memorex DVD+RW media . There's no option to pre-format media before writing each volume.

I tried my Memorex DVD+R 4X and did a full-backup is 30 mins. (2 disks) Verified ok as well another 30-60 secs.

Option: Compression Normal Speed Normal

P Home SP2 with Raid (1) hardware on board chip set.
2 SATA 160 gb drives with one partition.

LITEON DVDRW SOHW-1673S using standard ms drivers plus a PxHelp.sys installed by adobe.

System is current with ms updates. Virus free .. (Symantec).

oth

 

even ver. 3666 would back up to DVD, I have done it three times. I don't think it is TI that is the problem. I believe that there must be some incompatability between TI and something on your computer. At least for me it couldn't work much better.

I am useing Verbatim DVD+r on this burner

 

I had no problem with Acronis making a Backup of a 9.6GB hard drive to Verbatim DVD+R DL using Acronis' Direct Burn. The .tib file itself was about 5.6Gb on the DVD. However, I copied the file off the DVD over to an External because I know it'll probably not read it from the DVD.
There's still a few bugs with the DVD burn option, and the only way to get it solved is to call Aronis and talk directly to Tech Support about the problem.

My opinion::: is the burn speed is set to MAX in Acronis. There's no way of slowing it down becauce they don't have a "Burn Speed" selector in the software. Allowing you to manually choose the Burn Speed (12x,10x,8x,6x,4x) could potentially solve the problem alone.

But however, getting into burning your Back-ups to DVD causes a couple of concerns.
1. Once you get so much Data (9gb or so) on the HD, and using regular DVD's .....you'll have to use "Disc Spanning" (burning to several DVD's)

2. Or...use "Dual Layer" discs....which runs into money. Even on sale at Best Buy, they cost $39.99 for 20.

(The idea of "Disc Spanning" just sends chills. I don't like the sound of a DVD Burner laser "stopping, and then starting again" many times through-out the Backup procedure. I can see a potential margin for errors there.)

Saving to a USB External HD (formatted to NTFS) will allow you save a file that's as BIG...as the HD itself can hold.

 

Hi bigc73542,

When you created your image to DVD+R, did you set TI's backup option to automatically validate the image concurrent with the image creation? Also, did the image span 2 or more DVDs? If the answer to the first question is "yes" and to the second it's "no" then I will try create a non-spanned image and see what happens.

It should be noted that, as far as my testing is concerned, creating a spanned imaging direct to DVD+/-R or RW media and then separately validating it via the Backup Archive Validation wizard does not result in the endless loop of requested disk changes that I reported.

Regards

 

To bypass this problem I to am having, has any one created an archive (splited 4gb ) on a partition to then burn them to DVDs with a 3rd party software AND have a mean to somehow include True Image Home on either a CD or one of those DVDs ?


I don't want to wait 6 months to get a working Trial version. I don't have money to buy the retail thing. So when I talked to an Acronis agent telling me I could create an image with the Trial version, I jumped on it. But then, found out I can't even restore from them.

Having looked around a bit, I had found hight ratings for Acronis and that's why I chose to try the Trial version.

So if anyone, would know if that workaround would work, I would realy apreciate it. Thx.

 

Hello Browser_ice,

Hopefully Post #269 in this lengthy thread titled <How to create bootable rescue DVD(s):> answers your question .

Regards

 

I checked your thread. From the quote below, would I be able to do that with the Trial version ?

Use TI 9.0 Home's (build 3567 or higher) Media Builder Wizard to create a bootable ISO image of the required rescue media content to the \TIbootDVD\ISO sub-folder, giving it a suitable name such as BootDVD.iso.​

Also, could I do the same with Nero 6 ?

If its only a matter of burning splited archive files and adding to the first dvd the actual true image home boot software, then it should be possible with any boot enabling burning 3rd party, right ? The only thing would be to actual get that true image home boot software.

 

I've never used the trial version of TI 9.0 Home but it's supposed to be fully functional (under Windows) so, as far as I'm aware, the answer is "yes". ​

I'm afraid you need UltraISO version 7.6.5.1225 or higher to extract the boot info from the True Image ISO. UltraISO then utilises your DVD burning software (Nero) API to burn the combined TI rescue media/image as a bootable data compilation onto the first DVD. After that, just use Nero to burn any remaining .tib files to additional DVDs as standard DVD-ROM (ISO) data compilations.

I'm sure there's other software out there with the same functionality as UltraISO but it's going to be up to you to locate it and then figure out how to use it .

The only alternative that I've tested uses WinISO and BCDW, along with Nero 6, to burn the combined rescue DVD. The detailed procedure for this is contained in <Post #26> of the same thread that I referred you to previously.

Regards

 

Hello,
I would like to know, if Acronis had something done to solve this problem with spanned DVD backups ? I experience the same problem an need a solution for this issue very quickly.
In my job we are discussing to buy a backup solution for our servers from Acronis, but I am concerned that we may run into similar problems with backup reliability and software quality.
This problem was reported nearly 2 months ago. Can someone state what happend till now ?

Bye
Frank / Germany

 

Hello Frank,

The Acronis Development Team have been working on the outstanding problems but, at this moment in time, there have been no new fixes incorporated into the various latest builds of TI 9.x.

Regards

 

This is very disappointing really So I can't backup in this way. It was a reason to buy this product

 

I got the warning too when it burnt the last disc. At least the pop-pu could say that burning is over - if it is.

About the burning problems, I find it a shame that Acronis does not warn us when buying that DVD burning is not fully operational. It is even a selling argument on their site!

I paid for the software because I had good feedback from somebody. Now I wonder if the discs I burnt are OK or not. Data verification is INCREDIBLY long (on going as I write this message), and I suspect the problems will happen with disk 1 which seems readable with difficulty.

 

Has a time frame for this fix to be implemented been decided yet?

 

I think you'll find that a fix, if any, will be in TI10.


Colin

 

I hope that's not the case since TI10 will not be free to TI9 users.