Can I defrag partition drive where keeping all the backups files?

Discussion in 'Acronis True Image Product Line' started by iSkywalker, Aug 8, 2006.

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  1. MerlinAZ

    MerlinAZ Registered Member

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    Yes. That's what I do.
    I usually keep the last 3 or 4 backups and delete anything older.
    Hope things are well.
    Take care.
     
  2. J-Mac

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    Howdy Sam.

    Fine - and you and yours? :)
     
  3. Howard Kaikow

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    No.

    A full backup can be corrupt just as can one, or more, incremental backups.
     
  4. Howard Kaikow

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    Defragging has no effect on space available, only on performance.
     
  5. Howard Kaikow

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    Defragging does NOT Corrupt files.
    There is NO effect on the content of files, just their location.
     
  6. J-Mac

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    Agreed completely.

    However there is a higher probability of error with each added incremental backup, since the entire process is running again each time, and the system state will be changed to some extent for each one.
     
  7. Howard Kaikow

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    If you believe that, then always do FULL backups.
    And if you are concerned about image files going bad, TI is not the best choice as ALL drives are backed up into a single file.

    There are a number of other backup programs that use a separate file for each logical drive, so if you lose one drive, you do not lose the rest.
     
  8. bVolk

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    No need for another backup program, really.

    If the user wanted to obtain a separate image file for each logical drive, he would do as many separate partition images with TI. The MBR would be included, so no problem with restoring to a new drive. And if he required the separate images to be strictly synchronized, he would perform the imaging from the rescue environment.
     
  9. J-Mac

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    Presently I do a full backup, in the way of a TI image of my C and D drives. Backup files only go on E drive - all backups.

    I do also backup media files separately using other backup programs. Those also go on E drive, and data files that are important to me are also backed up onto DVDs.

    I don't have such critical data on my PCs that I would be seriously hurt by a failure, except personal family digital image and video files, which is why I back them up using several methods - I also have them all stored on an online storage server.

    The rest would certainly be painful, but I won't lose business or anything. :)
     
  10. Howard Kaikow

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    That's not a solution as you would have to run 1 backup job for each drive, which would be rather tedious. Expecting users to create a script to overcome this is not very nice.
     
  11. Menorcaman

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    Maybe not but the Lord help you if there is a power glitch whilst in the middle of a defrag :p.
     
  12. bVolk

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    J-Mac,

    My situation is like yours and the strategy as well. The only difference being in that I have an intermediate safety level: an external drive standing functionally between the internal E: and the DVDs, thus lowering the need for the latter. The external is normally disconnected, power spikes being the hazard I fear most in this area (surge protectors notwithstanding).
     
  13. Howard Kaikow

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    And that's why one must have more than one archive, each on different media.
    And why one must use a UPS to reduce the chance of problems.

    Of course, there really is very little need to ever defrag the drive on which backups are stored, so the issue is really moot.
     
  14. shieber

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    *.tib files are standard files as far as the file system is concerned. If defragging results in damaged files, it's a problem with the defragger, not ATI.

    I've used Perfectdisk without any problems with tib or other files. There are lots of other defraggers out there. Defragging is a relatively old technology now (not exotic "rocket science") and under XP can be iplemented with Windows calls. There shouldn't be any problem with files unless the software has become corrupted and is not performing correctly or it was bad software to begin with.

     
  15. Howard Kaikow

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    ALL defraggers use the same underlying Windows API calls.
    The defraggers are distinguished by:

    1. How efficiently they implement the calls.
    2. The quality of the user interface.
    3. Most importantly, how they choose to lay out the files and file system structures.
    4. Tech support, rarely, if ever needed, for a defrag product.

    I've been using Perfect Disk 7, and just this week upgraded to Perfect Disk 8.
    IMNSOHO, PD is the best defragger.
     
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