Is KIS6 enough?

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Rimo, Sep 24, 2006.

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  1. chrisjackson1985

    chrisjackson1985 Former Poster

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    i'll ask you to download the trial of the new pc-cillin, has everything u want, tested on leaktests are fantastic.

    £26 for 3 licences (3 pcs) / kaspersky is £40 for 1 licence (1 pc)

    try it, test it or whatever and then decide :D

    im just finding it hard to give kaspersky suite the BIG :thumb:

    there spyware is average while having a poor anti hacker thing.
    raving people pay the very expensive £40 a year for their credible antivirus, which nobody is disregarding has a good one.

    surely its worth it to try the trial?
    give it a go, could save lots of money and have better security?

    at the very least, its worth a thought? :) hehe
     
  2. BlueZannetti

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    Rimo,

    OK, you need industrial strength.

    You'll get as many opinions as there are posters, here's mine:
    • If you don't already use one, get a router. Even if you have only one PC. It takes the unsolicited inbound load off of your PC. Almost any reasonable one is fine. Lately I've been partial to the ZyXel ZyWalls (the 2 Plus - not the discontinued 2 - is a very decent choice) or Buffalo Technology WHR-G54S or
      WHR-HP-G54. The Buffalo's are much less expensive. I use DD-WRT firmware in the Buffalo's.
    • Kaspersky AV, don't get KIS, focus on the AV/AS/etc. modules. NOD32 is about as good in terms of detection and would be preferred if KAV has too big of an impact on system responsiveness. That's why you trial. If you have a recent machine, there should be no issues. ICE Systems is a good place to get KAV from if you're in the US.
    • A software firmwall. I use LooknStop in application only filtering mode. I know, in principle it leaves a gap here and there, but there's only so much I wish to learn. There are plenty of other reasonable options here, some free as well.
    • Active backup layer. If you machine is static (i.e. you're not installing a lot of new applications or trying new stuff out), try AntiExecutable from Faronics. Assuming your machine is known to be clean, when you install AE, it will perform a scan of all executables on that machine and those are the only executables that will be allowed to run. If you need to install something, disable AE, perform the install, and the new program will be added to the whitelist. I don't recommend AE if the installed applications change on a frequent basis. The only significant gap in AE is attack via scripts run by approved applications. KAV should handle that end well. If the installed applications change on a frequent basis, try PrevX1 instead of AE
    • CCleaner - for easy clearing out of temporary folder locations.
    That pretty much matches one of the setups I do use and it has never been a problem even though I will go to dubious links posted here to verify their state (some are fine, some are not), so it has been reasonably challenged over the years.

    Blue
     
  3. Franklin

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    Run your browser through Sandboxie as it will take care of zero day attacks or any other nasties.
     
  4. chrisjackson1985

    chrisjackson1985 Former Poster

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    i agree with the router firewall, and also the ccleaner

    ive heard of looknstop, but have never tried it myself... i hear good things about it though, so maybe he could try that aswell.

    id recommend him the latest perfectdisk for pc performance, and would recommend advanced pc optimzer too.

    if he is wanting just an antivirus on its own ... kaspersky or bitdefender.
     
  5. sick0

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    follow blue's advice...

    plus keep your windows updated, tighten you IE or use firefox or opera to surf those sites...

    if you give me passes to one of those sites you make, i might visit those sites more often...LOL...:D :D :D
     
  6. BlueZannetti

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    One more thing, don't forget some form of backup strategy. That can take lots of forms. Examples could include:
    • A clone of your primary drive maintained on a separate physical device that you can simply swap in as needed. Great for both software and hardware failures.
    • A readily restorable and frequently updated backup image
    • For my own, as well as my kids machines, where immediate access to the primary system needs to be maintained (how many times has some glitch occurred right in front of a tight deadline?). I maintain two XP boot partitions on different physical drives on each system that basically replicate all generally needed functionality (OS, key applications, etc.). In beta testing I have hammered the test boot partition, but I'm just a reboot away from being in business again with a fully functional and clean system. There are alternate ways to accomplish the same end (e.g. First Defense ISR, ShadowUser Pro, etc.). They work great for pure software issues, they don't address hardware failure. My own problems have been ~50:50 software:hardware; folks like beta testers will generally be much more on the software side. The best specific approach depends on predominate failure mode expected.
    Blue
     
  7. chrisjackson1985

    chrisjackson1985 Former Poster

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    get acronis true image,

    amazing backup utility, a fresh format in about 10 mins with the programs i installed JUST AFTER a format. takes up just 2gb of my hard drive aswell, so if problem occurs, 10 mins later... back to new :)
     
  8. BlueZannetti

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    It's what I use for the first two options that I listed above. Yep, recommended.

    Blue
     
  9. chaos

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    Blue Zannetti is right.You need top notch protection due to the high risk sites you are visiting.
    I would suggest.
    Outpost pro 3.51(Software Firewall),KasperskyAV 6(Antivirus+Proactive Defense),
    Ewido 4(AntiTrojan protection mainly,don't mind the name),SuperAntispyware(Antispyware) or Spysweeper(Though the latest version has a few bugs it is generally good at detection).
    Also I would complement these security programs with a second backup antivirus like ClamAV(for weekly main system scans) that does not interfere with the real time protection AV and might catch something that all the other miss.
    Also besides having all these programs' real time monitors activated I would also run weekly scans to ensure that they haven't missed something.
    Additionally something very important is to try and keep up to date the programs by ensuring that you have the latest software versions and latest signatures of these security programs.

    Also you need a hardware firewall or a router and a backup utility ,if I were you I would follow Bluezannetti's suggestions since they can cover your needs pretty well.

    I would also recommend a utility like System Mechanic 6.0 that will take care of your system by cleaning it and maintaining it.
     
  10. Rimo

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    Great,i want to thank you all for the response.
    And a special thanks to Blue Zannettti for his great explanation.
    I will check all the tips you gave me,and start with the trials of the programs you suggest.
    I see what you recommend me is a big difference from what I use now(KIS6).
    But what I told you,i need a top notch set up.
    The only thing I am afraid of is that my pc and laptop will slow down,but i will figure it out when i installed all the trials.
    More tips are always welcome :thumb:
     
  11. BlueZannetti

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    You can configure KIS to be exactly like KAV, simply do either a customer installation, or start an uninstall operation and select modify instead of remove and remove the AntiHacker module. That will basically leave you with KAV as the installed application.

    Blue
     
  12. bs259

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    i have one question about this kaspersky update that is supposed to be coming out, i read somewhere it was supposed to be coming out in the next couple of days and it was supposed to take care of some minor bugs, does anybody have any information on that? Also I am not talking about the new heuristic enging. I heard that should be out by the end of the year but since i did mention that also any updates on that also?
     
  13. Netherlands

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    I'm testing the beta and it realy runs great. I think it will come out soon because we are testing Release candidates now. The difference beteem the official release and the new Maintenance pack 1 release i cant realy tell because i'm testing the MP1 release for a time now and i even don't know anymore what the official KIS/KAV was look like :D

    The heuristic part will be implemented at the end of this year as far as i know.
     
  14. Don Pelotas

    Don Pelotas Registered Member

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    I don't it will be released in the next couple of days, the pre-tech release of it was released today and there may be a few of those before release...we'll see. The new heuristice is on schedule a nov/dec release.
     
  15. bs259

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    Thanks Don

    do you happen to know if it is possible to download the test software, i dont see it on their beta site?
     
  16. phasechange

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    Tell me, are you now chokeing on PMs:

    "pssst can I have a free pass"
    "hey, I think your great. Can I have a discount"
    etc.

    Fairy
     
  17. toasale

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    KIS, if you've got to have to have a suite; otherwise it's best to pick-n-choose.

    The reason I prefer p-n-c is: I test each package to make sure they do not drop my connection speeds to any degree, after they've passed my security tests. You'd be surprised, if you document your speeds, just how much tighter the bandwidth gets on many packages.

    A superb, non-funded speed test site is:

    http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest

    My best to all
     
  18. Rimo

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    Thank you for your replies.
    I learned a lot of this thread.
    At the moment i use this set up.
    * Router with hardware firewall
    * KAV6
    * LooknStop
    * Prevx1
    * CCleaner / Regcleaner
    * Windows updated

    I must say this set up runs great on my desktop and also on my laptop.
    No conflicts between Kav6 and Prevx1,and my pc is still fast.
    Once a week i do also a scan with Adaware and A Squared to be sure.
    I also use System Mechanic 6.0 for the maintanance of my pc.
    And Diskeeper to defrag my hard disk to keep it fast.

    Please let me know your opinions about it,and all comments are welcome.


    Thanks

    Rimo
     
  19. BlueZannetti

    BlueZannetti Registered Member

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    Rimo,

    Although the assembly may look lean to some eyes, you are extremely well protected against any reasonable scenario and still have backup measures to boot. If I were asked, this is an example of what I'd personally call "industrial strength" protection which is appropriate for your needs.

    If you run into issues, be sure to post back.

    Blue
     
  20. bugsy_pal

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    Rimo,

    Slightly off-topic, but... I would recommend looking at PerfectDisk for defragging - I find the results are better than with DiskKeeper (sinlge pass defragging with all items a free space defragged).
     
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