Sunbelt Kerio at 4.3.268

This could be stated for many companies, be it through having insufficient support staff, or just a possible lack of support in general. Its why forums, like "Wilders" is here, to help users, from other users,.. and hopefully between all the members, most problems can be solved, and questions answered.

 

Hello Stem. Yes both accounts are Full Admin. And I meant Google's Picasa, which is a digital picture program that needs to connects to the internet for updating purposes. I remember trying to get on Firefox on her account as well and it doing the same thing. Kerio Icon multilpying then disappearing and reappearing, while on my account it was asking for permit or deny. I have Windows XP, and Avast 4.7. Again had no troulble like this with kerio 4.3.246. which would ask for permit or deny on both accounts. Thanks for your response so far.

 

Hi duke1959,
I will setup to see if reproducible,.. and/or maybe another user as encountered this? possible answer/ workaround?

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Stem

 

Okay, thanks. Until then I was thinking about trying out the latest Zone Alarm Free Firewall. They are saying in that forum that it works perfectly. I have read where Kerio is superior, but at least I would have better protection than just Windows Firewall. Kind of afraid to try this one too, even tough it has been stated that the bugs have been fixed. What do you think?

 

Hi duke1959,
I personally have never had any problems with ZA installations, on my, or others users PC`s. When installing, ensure you have disabled any AV or other security programs (You could disable windows firewall as well first,.. just to be safe).

With Kerio+switching, I only have this on VM at the moment, I am seeing a lot of slowdowns on closing windows, and "fast user switching" is somewhat probmatic on this setup. I will install on a main OS/working system, with the programs you mention.

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Stem

 

I appreciate the help. I just read on the Zone Alarm Forum one person who can't access the internet with newest version, even after uninstall. Perhaps user's own doing. So you didn't have any problems uninstalling Zone Alarm then? I am just afraid of being that one out of whatever that has problems with it. The reports all across the web add to this feeling. Anyway, I may try Comodo again once the latest release comes out of Beta. Still though Kerio is my choice if I can get it to work right. By the way, what about Kerio 4.2.2? Any good, or should I stay away from older versions period? Also I want to ask if you think installing 4.3.246 then uninstalling before 30 day trial was up to install new version would have anything to do with my problem? It may sound crazy, but I was just wondering. Like I said I cleaned out everything from computer that had to do with last version. Talk to you soon, and thanks again.

 

Hi duke1959,
Unfortunately some users do have problems installing ZA, but this can be said for others firewall installations. I know you can look around the ZA forum and see many who have problems,.. but it is usually only the users who are having problems who post. There are very many who have no problems at all. As I mentioned, I have installed ZA many times on my, and other users systems, and performed the uninstall / re-install to update with no problems, the main thing is to ensure a clean OS (and when uninstalling ZA, to disable its startup with windows and re-boot before full un-install).

I think you should consider getting yourself some backup software, Acronis (there are others) as an example, would give you the ability to make a complete backup of your system/HD. Then if any problems do arrise, a restore can be easily made.

 

Great. But what about making a new system restore point to go back to? Is that sufficient enough? Since you have used Zone Alarm. What do you think of Zone Alarm Free verses Kerio after 30 day trial. I know they both offer some outbound protection. I had no trouble understanding Kerio, and have heard Zone Alarm is even easier. Which do you think uses less memory though? That ultimately will help my decision. Comodo 2.2 ate up alot of memory on my Pentium 4 Sony Desktop with 480MB of RAM. Plus it didn't have Fast User Switching. It is however a great Firewall. By the way I want to thank you again. I know I may have been a little off topic throughout these posts, but you have been quick to respond and very polite. It is appreciated. I did switch to AVG Free because it uses about half the memory of Avast while on the web, (Using FireFox) for when I install a Firewall. Any problems with that and Zone Alarm? Thanks again.

 

Hi duke1959,
Windows system restore can at times be probmatic. It is of course better than no backup, and would suggest, if this is the way you want to go, to create a new restore point before installation of a new firewall. Then if problems arrise, you go only back (restore) to just before the installation of the firewall.
I know users who are currently running ZA(free) with AVG(Free) and firefox with no problems. ZA is very easy to use, with popups only to allow/block applications from internet access.
Have you installed the "No script" extension for Firefox. If not, then I would suggest you take a look.

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Stem

 

Yeah I'll try No Scripts. May down load Zone Alarm Free and give it a try when I'm feeling braver. Might end up trying Kerio again though, as I believe it offers a little bit better outbound protection with frre version than Zone Alarm. I remember I downloaded Kerio from Snap Files last time, and not Sunbelt site. Does this make a difference at all? Oh, and what about Kerio 4.2.2?

 

Hi duke1959,
I personally always go to to the softwares website for any download,...

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Stem

 

Hi duke1959,

Hello again,..
I am currently running on a new account with Kerio 4_3_268, I am not seeing any problems with switching, connections all appear O.K. AV updating with only one prompt from Kerio.

Update:-
Have been running for a while, switching etc,.. some programs now failing to start, a need to exit Kerio is needed to enable these to run, even after a cold boot. So I think you should not install this version. I have just switched that PC off for now, will try and find time later to have another play, to try and see whats going on.

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Stem

 

Great. Thanks

 

Stem. Been using Kerio 4.2.2 without any problems. It is still a 30 day trial, and I have the 18 days left from 4.3.246 version. I installed it in simple mode, but then set the Any other application to 4 asks. This enables the Firewall to block a few leak tests that Zone Alarm Free doesn't. These leak tests can be downloaded from that Firewall Leak Test Site that also ranks the Firewalls. My question is. Will outbound protection remain active after the 30 day trial is over? I know Web Filtering and HIPS become inactive, but not sure if that's it. I will eventually use the latest version of Kerio if they ever get it straightened out. There seems to be more and more problems with 4.3.268 that are being posted in this and other Forums since I told you about mine.

 

Hi duke1959,
Yes, you would be wise to stay with the version you mention.

Yes, the outbound protection will remain. A full list of features full/free can be found here, on the comparison table (near bottom of page)

Stem

 

Thanks, I've seen that, but I still can't figure out if Kerio will retain the Application Behavior Blocking that enables it to pass some of the leak tests as shown on Firewall Leak Tester. Tool Leaky is the one I'm mainly referring to. I don't think it will pass a few others without HIPS either, which I do know becomes inactive after 30 day trial. I can just use Winpatrol for that I suppose. Anyway after careful consideration, I am now too chicken to take even the slightest chance, and it may only be slight, to try Zone Alarm Free at this time. Besides if I'm not mistaken the free version of Kerio 4.3.268 blocks a few more leak tests than Zone Alarm Free does. I just wonder if it does retain Application Behavior Blocking though. If not there's always Comodo with their soon to be released latest free version. I have to admit I really like that one. But I will end with the fact that I am more than satisfied with Kerio 4.2.2 so far. It is running very light on my CPU at only 8 to 13 MB in Task Manager. I will wait to see if Sunbelt addresses the latest troubles with 4.3.268, and thank you again for your help so far.

 

Hi duke1959,
Once the HIPS within Kerio no longer functions, maybe you may want to look at System Safety Monitor. There is currently a "Free" version available.

 

Hey Stem. I may try SSM Free tomorrow. I heard many good things about the latest version. I do have WinPatrol 10 Free, but I doubt it is close to the same thing as the regular SSM. Whether it's as good as SSM free version I don't know yet, but will find out. One last thing tonight. Do you know if Application Behavior Blocking remains in Kerio free version? I am starting to doubt that it does. Thanks

 

Hey I believe I got my answer. What I was told is, that NIPS, and Application Behavior Blocking remains active after 30 day trial, along with the Network Applications Feature. If this is correct, than Kerio should have better outbound protection than Zone Alarm Free correct? Also, anyone else experiencing any problems with 4.3.268 on their computer with a Two User Account?

 

Duke,

You're right. After 30 days, NIPS and Application Behavior Blocking still work. Plus, you can write your own rules.

HIPS does not work.

 

Thanks Infinity Az. When you say write your own rules. Do you mean changing ask/deny/permit settings in The Network Applications? I did change Any other application listed there to 4 asks. This helped kerio pass Leak Test 1.2 on the firewallleaktest site. The other two features, NIPS and Application Behavior Blocking when activated helped Kerio pass a few others. This is why I believe Kerio Free Version has better outbound protection than ZA Free does, correct? Thanks again for you response.

 

I'm a little unclear as to how to go about upgrading to this version of the firewall. Currently, I have the paid version of the firewall (4.2.3).

How should I upgrade to 4.3.268? Trying to check for an update through the firewall configuration window results in an error. Should I simply download the version ON THIS PAGE?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Rick

 

No suggestion as to how to install?

 

Disconnect from the internet. Exit Kerio and through Software uninstall it.
Reboot your computer, install the new one and reboot again.
Should work since I've done it too some time ago.