SuperAntiSpyware vs Spyware Terminator

Thx for that but I've decided to stop at this point after taking a careful look at the LICENSE AGREEMENT:


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The whole of it is dodgy as! Sounds to me like greyware.

And if my hosts file blocks that page there must be a reason for it. I use HP Guru's hosts update and I found that they are on the list so....

REMEMBER: CRAWLER, LLC. was once a spyware distributor.

Cheers.

 

i dont trust it eiether there are plenty of other tools on the market.

 

There are interesting results of tests by nosirrah on Castle Cops.
http://www.castlecops.com/p824779-Malware_testing.html#824779

Jerry

 

Hi

Just my 2 pennies worth.

Like gesc, I downloaded ST but unusually for me decided to look closely at the EULA and although no expert by any means, just felt uncomfortable so went no further.

 

I agree with what Nick (of Superantispyware) stated: those tests indicated nothing.

For instance, I had 6 trojans installed in my machine while visiting porn sites and only Spybot and Ad-Aware SE (including Trend Micro's online scan) detected them.

Ewido and A-squared got zilch. Same as my resident AV: Avast Home Ed.

Here are the names:

1. adware_memwatcher
2. tspy_dumador (backdoor-cct.dll)
3. tspy_small (trojan.win32.small.ga)
4. tsy_mosucker (backdoor.win32.mosucker.30.b). This trojan is very aggressive, a RAT and backdoor at the same time. Unbelievable that those two programs missed it!
5. adware_adclicker (trojan-downloader.win32.agent.bc)
6. adware-inet (trojan-clicker.win32.libie.d)
7. spyware_keyl_astlog (a\keylogger)
8. One unidentified object that couldn't be removed.

Trust your instinct my friend. That EULA stinks.

 

gesc, I take it you didn't try SUPERAntiSpyware? I like it and just wondered how effective it would have been in finding the Trojans you mentioned. I also use a-squared which has been having a lot of updates lately and am surprised that this program which is designed to find Trojans didn't. Thanks

 

This is something I have wondered about for quite a while - every company has to make money somehow, it's the simple reality. You can't have a staff, and maintain a product such as an anti-spyware product which requires contant updating without making money. We make money via donations and by people upgrading to our Professional version of our software.

Someone may want to contact Eric Howes of Spyware Warrior to re-review their EULA and such as I believe they were once on the rogue list.

How does Spyware Terminator make money? Crawler, LLC is not giving this away just for "fun"....makes you wonder.

Nick Skrepetos
SUPERAntiSpyware.com
http://www.superantispyware.com

 

i have had it for a couple weeks and nothing is wrong with my computer no toolbars or anything plus their program blocked CWS

 

the thing is they maybe find atm and block stuff but may studdenly change that and go bad again.

 

Eric from spyware warrior has stated in his rouge list that he has monitored this for a while and it is indeed clean.

The thing I like about it is that they also through in clam av to scan with if you want it. It makes it nice and gives a decent av backup to the thing as it will use clam for the realtime stuff also.

Here is the big one. It works great and gives decent realtime protection. The only issue I have had whit it is the ui refreshing slowly at times. But to be honest my system needs a good cleanup as it has been a long time since I cleaned it up. (it's virus/spyware free but lots of other app testing has made it a little crusty over time).

Also

@Nick I know you make it a point not to comment on competitors products so your comments above really suprise me. If Eric has monitored it and he is well respected and states that the app apears clean then why so much anomosity? Is it because they offer a product for free with real time protection?

On more thing Nick, Comodo will be releasing a simillar product soon with hips like this one for free. Now with all these companies putting out advanced products for free how will your company differentiate itself?

By the way I like superantispyware and have installed it on customer systems for months now durring my default install. I put the free version on there so I have nothing against your product but I do think you will have to do a little more to keep up with the fast pace of all the new products comming out.

 

There is no animosity - I did not put down the product at all, or attack its merits as a spyware scanner. I am very familiar with Eric, and his monitoring of the product. I have spoken to Eric on the phone and we have discussued various security issues - my point was is that their EULA incates that you can opt-out of having personal information collected - does that mean they collect person information? That is strange to have in a EULA - the previous poster brought up information regarding the EULA.

There is plenty of room in the anti-spyware market for many companies to succeed - it takes time, resources, dedication and vision to be able to stay ahead of the new spyware infections - we focus on harder to remove infections. We have infections in our lab that simply shut down any application querying the process which automatically terminates almost every single anti-spyware and anti-virus application that uses the standard Windows API. There are new rootkits that make the current ones seem like childs play - we are already testing technology to detect and remove these new hybrid and advanced technology threats. Only time will tell who will last in the anti-spyware war.

My other comment regarding the money issue is a reality - companies have to make money to survive for the long term. There has to be some "gain" for giving away a professional product.

With regards to "keeping up" - we infact have many technologies in our current SUPERAntiSpyware product that are far ahead of existing products - there are infections we will "see" that others won't even know are on the system. Creating a decent anti-spyware/malware application is more than just detecting and removing threats - meaning, many of the first HIPS (general classification - not targeting ANY specific product) products slow down the system drastically - those are obstacles that must be overcome for them to be accepted and widespread.

Nick Skrepetos
SUPERAntiSpyware.com
http://www.superantispyware.com

 

Well allI have to say is this:

SA is on that list whereas ST is NOT, regardless of what Eric at SW says that the product isn't rogue anymore (even though he is that website's author).


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As Nick says:

Time will tell who stays in business!


Regards,

gesc.

 

I agree with cheater87.
The program seems clean.No toolbars.Nothing turns up in other security program scans.

But that EULA is cause for concern.

 

Tester,

That EULA shows that the "devil could show up tomorrow."

 

in someways im surprised spyware doctor is on the trusted list because it seems to have so many false possitives in both free and payed versions. normaly this is done by rogue programs to get you to pay for them to remove the threats.

 

Hi, folks: This seems to be my major concern and am very critical about it until couple days ago. I decided to give it a hard look; d/l newer build and def. And ran a complete scan, to my biggest surprise, it did not produce ANY F.P. perhaps SD has improved itself so much so that this may change my thinking. As to the heated debate between SAS and ST, if you ever get a cold feet towards these two(but pls do not get me wrong; both are good apps), why not try out Zero Spyware free edition? I d/l for my friend few days ago. It seems that the lengthy D/L process has improved a lot. I d/l from Softpedia.com. It has somewhat limited real time scanner and frequent def updates. Why not give it a spin. But a word of caution quoted from Nick of SAS, these software company HAS to make $$$ in order to stay aflot, where is thier CASH COW? is your and my guess.

 

My advice : use both. You can't have enough scanners on your computer.
There is always a possibility that SUPERAnti-Spyware will detect something that isn't detected by Spyware Terminator or vice versa and your computer will be infected forever, if you don't have both.
Just think about that : i.n.f.e.c.t.e.d. f.o.r.e.v.e.r... it's a night- and daymare.

 

I wouldn't trust Softpedia very much. If it's included in "hpguru's" hosts file there must be a reason for it.

 

But it is on "Anti-Spyware Programs: Feature Comparison"

 

Maybe it's a coincidense.... but i added 3 programs to my list and i was gonna cut down to one... spyware terminator (slightly impressed, will wait to see if it's good in the future), counterspy (decently impressed) and spydefence (not impressed)... got rid of spydefence for trend micro antispyware (decently impressed, but wouldn't win the triple threat)

A few days later my comp got a fatal error that microsoft can't fix (Btw all active protection was off on all 3... i just restarted the computer and then it restarted ... and wouldn't start up)... and it's going the the repair man. So I guess CounterSpy won... and will add it to my list when the comp gets fixed.

(currently im in safe mode for the record, and the fatal error is not malware/virus related)

So I would have to say... there may be a limit lol.

Also while talking to bitdefender support he said some (i forget what type of files) may conflict from download... because I thought it may be virus related at first... so that may be the case..

 

I came across this post. I'm one of the members from Spyware Terminator and I wanted to try to address these concerns by a small Q&A.

1) Why is Spyware Terminator Free?

Spyware Terminator:
- addresses the users need for quality free real-time protection.
- helps build brand awareness for Crawler.com.
- will hopefully encourage our users to try our other free Crawler Products including 5GB Webmail/ Storage, Parental Control and Toolbar that has screensavers, wallpapers, email plugin, rss, and other cool features.

2) Will Spyware Terminator remain free?
Yes, we will continue to offer a free real-time version for personal use in the future.

3) How do you make money?
Currently, we generate revenue when users search using our products. In the near future, we will offer Spyware Terminator with premium support and a paid version for businesses.

4) Why does Spyware Terminator reference other Crawler products?
A: Crawler uses the same terms for all its products, we felt this would provide a level of transparency to our users. Many of our users use multiple Crawler products and by combining the terms it makes it easier for user since he has to read the terms only once. We’d be willing to modify the process if enough of users felt it’s better to have separate terms for each product. In the case of Spyware Terminator we do have a separate privacy policy since we do not require any information. Please review the privacy policy at http://www.spywareterminator.com/legal/privacy.aspx for further clarification. As you will see we do not collect PII information from our users.

One example of where we require information would be when a user signs up for our 5GB of email/storage. Again even in this instance the privacy policy is extremely clear, in that we do not use this information for any purpose.

5) Why was it listed as rogue?
A: I would urge you to read the comments by Eric at this post for further clarification on the listing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16652263~mode=flat?r=972. We do not feel Spyware Terminator should have been listed, however, this hopefully provides a level of clarity to users.

Thank you for your feedback and we hope to build a quality product that exceeds the expectations of our users. So please keep the feedback coming since we’re working very hard to win the hearts and minds of our users. Have a wonderful week ahead everyone!

Hope this helps!

ST_Helper

 

Softpedia:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Popup-Ad-Spyware-Blockers/Spyware-Terminator.shtml

 

What's so good about Softpedia? Do you think that a nice award banner and a review by someone who's get paid to write a review from some Softpedia office in Bucharest with other 20 people make Spyware Terminator a great, safe and trouble free? You are wrong my friend, do yuo know how much crap has Softpedia awarded and contains spyware /adware ? Do you know how many ''turbo accelerators'' and other usless things are awarded by Softpedia and posted in the main paige of Softpedia especially in the weekend when the kids are not at school so Softpedia can get a nice revenue from the affiliate program even if a ''turbo accelerator'' doesn't exist ? Have you tried to count how many bogus / rogue spyware programs are listed by Softpedia along with the nice ''100% safe tested by Softpedia'' ? If not do it, and open your eyes people, Softpedia is just a money maker machine, that people has no real ethics, if you want a real SAFE SITE you should use SNAPFILES.

 

SnapFiles:
http://www.snapfiles.com/reviews/spyware-terminator/spywareterminator.html

 

I saw a full page ad on the recent issue of PC World by Crawler for their Spyware Terminator program. I guess they are trying to get as much exposure as possible.

My recommendation for promoting the programs:

Hire the governor of California (Arnold) to promote Spyware Terminator (Hasta La Vista spyware)...

Hire the Superman actor (Brandon Routh?) to promote SUPERAntispyware (look up in the sky.. it's a bird, it's a plane, no it's superantispyware)