nod32 vs. kaspersky

Why do you think it is false positive . Because one software doesn't detect it , it doesn't make it non-malicious . Please, submit this ^game trainers^ to VirusTotal and post the results

 

There's another great scanner looking at the top: Avira Antivir Personal Premium......with firewall, but Beta just now. I have not seen a scanner, so easy, so light and fast, with great features, for a very long time. Was crazy about Nod32, but this Antivir is gonna be mine as soon it is final.
Take a close look at it, trial it.......you won't be sorry!

 

NOD32 is the best.

Bitdefender has poor realtime protection.
Kaspersky never listen to their customers. (edit - Gratuitous bash removed - Blue)

NOD32 rocks!

 

xpsunny, don't bash Kaspersky like that. They have good support also.
and bit defender has good realtime protection most of the time, though I've noticed on some computers to miss some malwares on-access even if the realtime protection as set properly.

 

(edit - Comment regarding gratuitous bash removed - Blue)
That was weak, this is how the KAV/NOD arguments start.

I use both AV's and I have never had a problem at either forum when I need a question answered.

 

To all:

If you wish to debate the factual performance of Kaspersky vs. NOD32, be my guest. However, additional gratuitous bashing comments will be removed without further notice and may result in closure of this thread.

Blue

 

Hey,

does nod32(the best..best...best...) and kaspersky internet security has any conflicts?

 

Exactly right! So let's stay on topic. Thanks,

Blue

 

I use both as well. On different machines/boot partitions. If you know what you're doing you can likely get both to work on one machine, although not as realtime monitors at the same time - as is the case with most/all AV products.

Blue

 

Anyone knows a website that contains genuine comparision between nod32(best....best....best.....) and kaspersky internet security.
In terms of detection rate, scan speed, false positive,etc...

 

xpsunny, go to av-comparatives.org They've tested Kaspersky 5.0 but the detection are the same.

 

Take a look here:

http://www.eset.com/download/whitepapers/VBEsetJune06.pdf

NOD32 has highest performance!

 

xpsunny,

To my knowledge, you won't find very detailed comparative assessments of scan speed. As a user of both products, on my machines, NOD32 still holds the lead in scan speed, but the margin has closed considerably with the release of KAV/KIS 6.0.

As for detection rate, see the demand and retrospective detection test results at av-comparatives.org. KAV leads in the On-Demand tests, NOD32 in the Retrospective tests. The latest detailed report from the Retrospective test (May 2006) does contain false positive and scan speed results. NOD32 and KAV are basically equal in false positives generated. The scanning speed of NOD32 was shown as close to twice that of KAV in that test (~7.49 vs. 3.55 MB/sec), which in my experience is about right for the KAV version 5 branch (the current commercial release at the time of the test). However, as I note above, that gap has closed considerably with the version 6 branch of KAV/KIS. The difference is a small fraction of that currently.

Blue

 

for the right-click scanning (context menu scanning), you have the option to not scan the memory first, which certainly does slow things down if you just want to scan 1 file. i can't remember if this is set by default or no, but I don't have NOD32 scan the memory in the context menu profile as I don't think it's necessary for this type of scan.

 

I don't understand this
I sent it from ESET's "infected" folder and came back clean !!!
Only UNA (?) thinks it's a trojan
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Virus Total
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Scan results
File: 3R4CNRBA.NQF
Date: 07/16/2006 14:21:30 (CET)
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AntiVir 6.35.0.21/20060715 found nothing
Authentium 4.93.8/20060714 found nothing
Avast 4.7.844.0/20060714 found nothing
AVG 386/20060714 found nothing
BitDefender 7.2/20060716 found nothing
CAT-QuickHeal 8.00/20060713 found nothing
ClamAV devel-20060426/20060715 found nothing
DrWeb 4.33/20060716 found nothing
eTrust-InoculateIT 23.72.69/20060714 found nothing
eTrust-Vet 12.6.2297/20060714 found nothing
Ewido 4.0/20060716 found nothing
Fortinet 2.77.0.0/20060716 found nothing
F-Prot 3.16f/20060714 found nothing
F-Prot4 4.2.1.29/20060714 found nothing
Ikarus 0.2.65.0/20060714 found nothing
Kaspersky 4.0.2.24/20060716 found nothing
McAfee 4807/20060714 found nothing
Microsoft 1.1508/20060716 found nothing
NOD32v2 1.1663/20060716 found nothing
Norman 5.90.23/20060714 found nothing
Panda 9.0.0.4/20060716 found nothing
Sophos 4.07.0/20060716 found nothing
Symantec 8.0/20060716 found nothing
TheHacker 5.9.8.176/20060715 found nothing
UNA 1.83/20060714 found [Trojan.PSW.Win32.HotKeysHook]
VBA32 3.11.0/20060715 found nothing
VirusBuster 4.3.7:9/20060715 found nothing

 

Thanks !!
I will check to change it.

 

This is not REALLY a false positive. Some trojans used this component as well, it's basically so called "Grey-Ware". If you really need such trainers which are using this component just exclude them from scanning. Same as for "Protected Password View" which was used by numerous of Dumaru Worms 3 years ago to gain access to outlook passwords for sending emails.

 

UPDATE

Another one
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Complete scanning result of "Pop3trainerv02.exe", received in VirusTotal at 07.16.2006,
15:15:00 (CET).

Antivirus Version Update Result
AntiVir 6.35.0.21 07.15.2006 no virus found
Authentium 4.93.8 07.14.2006 no virus found
Avast 4.7.844.0 07.14.2006 no virus found
AVG 386 07.14.2006 no virus found
BitDefender 7.2 07.16.2006 no virus found
CAT-QuickHeal 8.00 07.13.2006 (Suspicious) - DNAScan
ClamAV devel-20060426 07.15.2006 Trojan.W32.HotKeysHook.A
DrWeb 4.33 07.16.2006 no virus found
eTrust-InoculateIT 23.72.69 07.14.2006 no virus found
eTrust-Vet 12.6.2297 07.14.2006 no virus found
Ewido 4.0 07.16.2006 no virus found
Fortinet 2.77.0.0 07.16.2006 suspicious
F-Prot 3.16f 07.14.2006 no virus found
F-Prot4 4.2.1.29 07.14.2006 no virus found
Ikarus 0.2.65.0 07.14.2006 Trojan.Win32.Keylogger.HotKeysHook.A
Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 07.16.2006 no virus found
McAfee 4807 07.14.2006 no virus found
Microsoft 1.1508 07.16.2006 no virus found
NOD32v2 1.1663 07.16.2006 Win32/Keylogger.HotKeysHook.A
Norman 5.90.23 07.14.2006 no virus found
Panda 9.0.0.4 07.16.2006 no virus found
Sophos 4.07.0 07.16.2006 no virus found
Symantec 8.0 07.16.2006 no virus found
TheHacker 5.9.8.176 07.15.2006 no virus found
UNA 1.83 07.14.2006 Trojan.PSW.Win32.HotKeysHook
VBA32 3.11.0 07.15.2006 no virus found
VirusBuster 4.3.7:9 07.15.2006 no virus found

Aditional Information
File size: 202653 bytes
MD5: 724d13129e29a8df96b69e7d3d6eea07
SHA1: 03ac3f282f4eff00910f0c7c37bbe37632a858e1
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I understand but not all AV's flag them.
My son plays difficult games like Prince of Persia...

 

But i do You should not be suprised that NOD doesn't detect it's own quarantine file (and others also not) you have to restore it and to send the original because NOD32 quarantine files are manipulated that you cannot start the malware anymore.

 

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I made the profile change and now this type of scan is really FAST ....

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As for the game trainers are downloaded from mainstream sites
like GAMESPOT and MegaGames and are files to help you in the
game giving you more health and things like that (I don't play myself...)

 

If you don't scan memory first isn't there is the possibility that NOD32 is being lied to when it checks the file system? Can the file open and read calls that AV use be intercepted by code in memory? I'd assume they could although kernel integration should make this more difficult.

Fairy

 

I run NOD32 on my laptops .

I also have old Win 2k Pro PC which is used for tests . I recently installed KIS6 on this test machine and I will again say that Kaspersky's performance on all machines I have ever seen remains awful . I just just don't understand why people like it Really strange


p.s. I don't want to start a war between NOD32's and KAV's fans . The words above are just facts

 

It seems that KAV doesn't like you....
I had much better relationship with it for many years.

 

Yes , I start thinking somethink like that

 

Fact; you are a NOD Reseller.

So like some, not all, of these breed you continuously knock down the opposition.

Your constant bashing of KAV in nearly every other one of your posts gets a little tiresome at times

Have you ever thought of teaming up with xpsunny?