Inspector Clouseau found another bad guy :)

I've sent them the sample also couple of days ago.... I've even posted a thread here: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=136522

They did not even answer about it....I'm a little bit dissapointed. Their priorities are again very strange.

 

And I was the:

1 off topic/bashing post removed.

Blackspear.

in your thread there. I didn't bash NOD32. I simply said that Eset seems to still be as defensive and closed mouthed as they were when I had NOD32 and I thought that attitude lost them customers. They lost me that way. I can't imagine why Eset would not answer your question and that comment from Anton that was drug up....well...again...it is that sort of attitude why I use KAV now and am beta testing both F-Prot and McAfee enterprise on virtual machines (and finding them excellent - not McAfee Falcon home version...that is awful).

 

thank you Mele20 for your support. I really regret buying NOD32 now.
They are even worse than other AV vendors for which I don't have a paid license and which are adding defs in no time.

ESET was supposed to be a "doctor" to heal computers isn't it?
Now let's suppose somebody comes to the doctor having a certain illness but the doctor says:"I'm too busy, to hungry, too upset...I have other priorities...I can't tale care of you today."
The same the following 2 days.
The third one, the doctor finally considers taking a look at the man, but unfortunately he is dead..... Maybe you think my example is way to heavy but it's the reality.

Hope my post will not be removed because I think we should express freely not to transform this forum in a "praising NOD32 forum" ...

 

Just follow the inspector whereever he goes, rofl. Time to start playing with F-Prot some more! (it's been a while)

 

Pykko , I am sure you still can't understand ESET's policy of additing malware in the definitions . Global threats are priority - worms , vulnerabilities . Do you understand that when Microsoft gave Word's vulnerability a publicity , a lot of malware were created exposing it and then ESET's reaction was about 2 or 3 hours . This is a priority . Trojans cannot be priority . I am 100% sure you have read and you do know the Greek mithology . Trojan horses are "cheaters" . You install trojans because you want - yes . You visit infected site , you install software with trojan in it and that's why trojans can never be a priority . ESET want small definitions , ESET want small software , ESET want small footprint . I want this , too . I am a reseller of NOD32 and I know what my customers want - they want the same . I have been working with computer for a long time and I know what people know . They hate Panda because it is too heavy , they hate Norton because it is too intrusive . They don't like Kaspersky because its scan engine is slow . Norton's definitions are extremely big , what would happen if this is with NOD32 . If NOD's def are like Nortons , we would have updated for 30 minutes , not for 30 seconds like now . Moreover , NOD32's technology is proactive and it is capable to catch so much unknown malware and you need to be sure you are protected if you think just a liitle bit if I want to install that "trojan" or no.I hope you understand that .

HiTech_boy

 

I want trojans to be a priority, too - I don't care if the footprint is larger. I want to be protected. Eset has had Zlob as a priority, and that's a trojan. That one is fast spreading, though. You never know when you'll be the next victim of a trojan that isn't detected.

I like NOD32, but think the way they add sigs is a valid criticism.

 

well, Hitech_boy your thinking is alright, but why and how other companies can react in 24H to a new threat submitted and NOD32 in couple of days ..weeks ?
And of course I have the sample of that Trojan and I don't run it but what happens if I enter an website containing it and I get infected?

Or what happens if I get it from a CD ?
I know and I highly appreciate NOD32 superb AH but Trojans and other malwares are also a big threat. Anyway, I think who should understand understood, hopefully....

 

Zlobs were and are priority since many were getting infected with them and still they are too famous . Again - trojans can never be a priority since they don't install themselves - they need you do something to be installed and active . People need to be smart in some way . There is no software that can achieve 100% success because there are people behind this program . You guys never remember and appreciate when NOD32 saves the day . During the years it has happened a lot proactively . 38 Virus Bulletinns , Checkmark for spyware detection/removal and many other real things . Don't critisize it so much

 

I disagree. Once trojans are discovered, they can be added just like viruses. NOD32 is not perfect. Neither are other AVs, but NOD's strength right now is not quick signature addition for non-ITW threats.

 

First of all , I have never seem this happen for weeks (personal experience)

Think ! Before you press the ENTER , think , sites that are suspicious don't need to be opened . All grandmothers have said - Don't play with the fire and you won't get burned

The same here like with the sites , the same if in a mail . Don't open suspicious files . Suspicious one should be sent for analyze and if the are too dangerous they will be added . Moreover , if you aren't happy with a software for a moment , you change it for a while . No software can guarantee 100% success .


Last week I disinfected clients laptop - full of nasty spyware , trojans and worms . There was some trojans and spyware that NOD32 didn't detect but I submitted them to ESET . However ,I used BitDefender , Panda, Spybot s&d , Ad-Aware , NOD32 , Kaspersky and onlu NOD32 detected 6 files proactively which obviously were malware and 2 others . The others mentioned above failed in detecting them .So , let us not argue about that

 

Read carefully again my previous post - the third row , there is no...

 

I agree that there is no perfect AV. But NOD might not have what everyone wants. I edited my above post. I'm using NOD because KIS 6 slows my browsing, and I feel comfortable supplementing it with BOClean.

 

Well, for me it happened.
Anyway, their reaction time is much slower than other AV vendors anyway. Perhaps they have too little employees or I don't know. Hope this will change soon.

 

To be fair, though, Eset's reaction time often seems better than Symantec's and McAfee's.

 

Hello Hi Tech Boy.

I do not want to argue one over the other here, but you said,
"They don't like Kaspersky because its scan engine is slow"

I have only used KAV6 to any extent, as compared with V5,. Its scan times are much shorter than NOD.

I trialed NOD, and it is an excellent AV. However, its scan times are in the neighborhood of 30 minutes on my computers, and KAV scan times run from 2 minutes to 16 minutes with about 6 being the norm for a full scan. That is with the option of not scanning files that have not been changed, or are not new.

I would be happy with NOD, but prefer KAV6.

Best,
Jerry

 

Hey folks,

The thread does have a nominal topic, though we've certainly wavered far afield.

Let's stick to the nominal topic of the current thread, and if another topic happens to strike our fancy, creation of a new thread on that topic would be the best course of action for current and future contributors and readers of the discussion.

Thanks in advance

Blue

 

Sorry Blue.

Jerry

 

No problem. We all veer off topic occasionally, the key is to get back on track whenever that happens.

Cheers,

Blue

 

Me also sorry

 

I'm still surprised NOD32 is still unable to detect it. Anyways, I've noticed that the malicious site does not load the trojan anymore.

 

Kye-U see Marcos' answer here: https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=137254