maybe special test in june

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by IBK, May 26, 2006.

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  1. Smokey

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    Yep.

    Lot of horrible powertalk.

    "Dynamite", "hydrogen-bomb", your company have really explosive and extraordinary dangerous software.

    Oh, just one small, unimportant remark:

    when VS1 is an piece of dynamite, why not give IBK the opportunity to test it in his underground bomb shelter?

    I'm sure, the power of your dynamite will pulverize all competetors.o_O
     
  2. TeraInnovations

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    It was an analogy, nothing more, nothing less.
     
  3. Chubb

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    Hey IBK, would you invite Authentium's Command AntiVirus for testing, who uses the F-PROT engine? Command AntiVirus has not been covered in previous tests.

    And also RAV?
     
  4. Smokey

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    My remarks too.
     
  5. IBK

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    no, for that look at the rates of the original product (f-prot), would get the same level.
    rav?? if you mean microsoft, it will be included when ready/distributed to anyone (maybe in august, almost for sure included in february).
     
  6. Antarctica

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    Bad analogy I would say.o_O and not a good choice of words regarding
    marketing,:D
     
  7. TeraInnovations

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    Fine, lets see how many other things people will pick at ;) - "Power-speaking, VS1 was the county jail, VS2 would be a maximum security prison."
     
  8. Smokey

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    Correct view.

    On the other hand, it mean good business for life-insurance companies.:D
     
  9. Chubb

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    There may be some differences, I am not sure, for F-PROT and Command AV. Although F-Secure also uses the KAV engine, there are still differences in the detection rate and F-Secure was also included in the test.

    For Command AV, you can see from http://www.authentium.com/solutions/ISP/antivirus.asp that

    "Based on the proven F-Prot Professional scanning engine and Authentium TSX Dynamic Scanning Technologies"

    With the addition of "Authentium TSX Dynamic Scanning", I am curious if Command AV would score differently by having both the F-PROT and Authentium engine.
     
  10. IBK

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    hm, i think the dynamic scanning of authentium does not affect detection rates, but i will look to it again to get sure when i find time.
    f-secure uses avp and 2 other engines, which affects the results a bit.
     
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    Thanks IBK. There is no information about the "TSX Dynamic Scanning Technologies" mentioned by Authentium. Doing a google search didn't find any references about what TSX stands for. I am not sure if TSX is related to something like the unpacking method of scanning, just wild guess..:p
     
  12. IBK

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    TSX = Trusted Security eXtensions
    according to Authentium: small differences in the heuristics and detection of Mac viruses , otherwise detection rate is basically the same as F-Prot.
    i will try it during next months to see how small these differences are.
     
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    Doesn't Command AV also have HoloCheck heuristics engine which is different than that of F-Prot's? If this is the case, then the results of Command AV can differ from F-Prot....

    @TeraInnovations: It is good to market a product every now and then, but too much marketing before release can lead to expectations being much higher than what the product can deliver, and we all know what happens if such a thing happens. Remember, a dynamite for you may just be a firecracker for someone else.... :)
     
  14. TeraInnovations

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    I was just giving a comparison - I'm trying to NOT market our product now, because, to the best of my knowledge, it won't be release for quite a while. You won't be hearing anything from us until the alpha is ready :)
     
  15. Chubb

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    Yes, you are right, Firecat, HoloCheck heuristics engine from Command AV. I almost have forgotten about this. :-*
     
  16. Chubb

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    Just curious.

    Will ViruScape 2 be the most ever perfect AV in the product line, so that version 2 will be the final end and there will be no version 3 or 4?

    When ViruScape 2 is released, will Tera Innovations Inc said that, hey, it is no good to test version 2, because we are now working on version 3, which is far more superior, have far more features with even better detection rates, so that we should wait again for version 3 to be tested?

    Just wild guess...:D
     
  17. TeraInnovations

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    There is no reason to speculate - 2.0 will be released and tested. If you own 1.0, you will get 2.0 for free.
     
  18. Inspector Clouseau

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    :D :D :D wise words :D :D :D
     
  19. ellison64

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    Hello IBK..
    As a complete novice on how you go about these things ,may i ask whether to show the test results ,you need the vendors permission and so on?.I know that it is civil and a matter of curtesy to ask first , but what if for example all of them said no we dont want to participate.Would you still be able to publish test results from trial versions (if they were fully featured of course) or would there be some sort of legal aspect preventing you?
    tia
    ellison
     
  20. IBK

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    if all would say no, I would invest the time in other things I have to do, as the tests are done for free and I am also quite busy with other things.
    there is some law here that suggest me to test&publish only if I get a permission.
     
  21. Blackcat

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    I would also be interested to see whether in fact the results, time permitting, are very similar, particularly when Authentium are supposedly adding their own defintions in addition to those from Frisk.
     
  22. pykko

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    From Authentium official website.
    And from F-Prot website:
    ...so they've added a whooping 38 signatures in addition to Frisk. :eek:

    And besides this there are other AVs having more defs than Authentium..they have not the largest database as they're boasting. See Bit Defender and Avira for example with more than 370.000 defs. ;)
     
  23. IBK

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    currently it looks like this:
    Ahnlab V3Pro...............................no reply so far
    CA eTrust (with VET engine only)....will reply probably this week
    ClamWin Anti-Virus........................YES
    Rising Antivirus.............................YES
    UNA (Ukranian Anti-Virus)...............YES
    VirusBuster Professional..................probably YES

    I hope that in total at least 4 of those will participate...
     
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  24. rothko

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    how about testing the new MS AV (in the OneCare) package? It would be interesting to see how that performs. I see it as becoming a rival to Norton and McAfee because it's a name that non-techy users (ie the majority of pc owners) will recognise and think 'ah, Microsoft...they know a thing or two about computers, they must know what they are doing'.

    Hope to see it tested at some stage, even if it doesnt make it in to the (possible) June test.
     
  25. IBK

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    MS OneCare will be included MAYBE already in some months, and almost for sure in February 2007, as it is a participant of the regular test-series.
     
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