Grisoft acquiring Ewido...

Discussion in 'ewido anti-spyware forum' started by vlk, Apr 19, 2006.

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  1. Infinity

    Infinity Registered Member

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    we all knows those kind of stories of good software getting bought up by large companies .. I truely hope that this story has a better ending!
     
  2. Don Pelotas

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    Sure, i believe that you mean that, but for how long and how will the new owners feel about this in 6-12 months, i'm sure they will take a good look at how you do things and have their fingerprint on how things are done and that does not necessarily mean better for ewido costumers. :cautious:
     
  3. Detox

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    I've moved this over to the Ewido forum since most discussion has been taking place here and other threads were popping up. Hopefully we can keep it all in one place this way ;)
     
  4. redwolfe_98

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    i will go with what it says at the ewido website, "for our customers, nothing will change"..
     
  5. gre87y

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    After going through the TDS4 fiasco I certainly hope you are correct redwolfe
     
  6. QBgreen

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    Amen! I had that very thing happen to me twice. McAfee (Network Associates at the time) bought and killed two of my favorite products from back in Win '95-'98 days. Helix Hurricane was a fantastic system utilities suite, and Dr. Solomon's AVTK, a powerful and loyally supported A/V. I would become quite irritated if this happened to ewido's fine program. :mad:
     
  7. chaos16

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    does this mean AVG signatures would be implemented in Ewido ?
     
  8. IBK

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    no, probably like Ewido says: "for our customers, nothing will change", but AVG will implement the ewido technology in its products. :p
     
  9. azumi21

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    shocking.....

    at least m$ or symantec didn't buy ewido.
     
  10. Itsme

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    ffff,
    good thing I did not buy a license.... looks like Tinysoftware/CA story all over again...

    this has killed my every initiative every buying another license from a promissing company.

    I left AVG behind long time ago for Nod32, and now waited for Ewido 4 to come out to see if I would buy 10 licenses.... now I know my money will go elsewhere.

    And please... don't tell me it is in the interest of your Clients.... I am not an idiot.

    Ciao
    Itsme
     
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  11. Chubb

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    I was very disappointed when McAfee bought Dr. Solomon's AVTK in late 1998. Dr' Solomon's AVTK was my favourite AV at that time along with AVP3.0 (KAV). In more or less the same time, Symantec bought IBM AntiVirus and Intel LanDesk AntiVirus to compete with McAfee, and Norman Data Defence bought ThunderByte.

    McAfee completely destroyed Dr Solomon's!! McAfee simply plug the Dr Solomon's engine into VirusScan and thrown away Dr Solomon's. There was NO change in the VirusScan UI or settings. McAfee simply bought the engine and signature base ONLY and destroyed the whole company. I read some time ago that McAfee used the AVAST engine before it bought Dr. Solomon's.

    So will AVG do the same? :'( :'(

    Ewido has been working well and compatible with most AV and anti-spyware software, but I think 4.0 may not be compatible as in version 3.5, since the anti-spyware component in 4.0 may cause imcompatability with other AV or anti-spyware software, and using Ewido 4 may require giving up your other favorite software.
     
  12. the Tester

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    I'm a bit skeptical of this deal.
    Don Pelota's post brings up a very good point.How this will play out over time for both the Ewido program and it's customers is anybody's guess.Things have a way of changing.

    On the bright side....at least M$ didn't buy/bury/mutilate the program.:thumb:
     
  13. TopperID

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    I was very satisfied with Giant AS when I bought a licence, but by the time that licence expired I was relieved to be able to jump ship.

    Who knows what Grisoft will do with ewido in the months to come? It is now their company to do with it as they wish. They can change the name, allow it to run down, refuse to continue as a separate product - anything!

    Of course they must honour existing licences to customers, because those customers have a legally binding contract with them. But if they so choose, they could stop issuing new licenses and in a year or so it could be all over.

    What happened to Giant could equally happen to ewido.
     
  14. Notok

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    Sounds like everyone wants ewido to be stopped. It was stated several times that nothing will change on ewido's side, and I don't see any reason to believe otherwise. It's quite common for a company to acquire another and keep it going as it's own project. Of course there will be some cross-over, but that is going to have more to do with know-how. I'm sure that they will exchange samples more readily when appropriate, but ewido is no AV, and AVG is no AT, and you can't just patch AVG with parts of another program. Most likely the ewido team will just teach them how they can implement things like real memory scanning, unpackers, etc., and be advisors on the tougher trojans. It just makes sense for them to be separate products because you then have income coming in from two different kinds of customers, and ewido will remain in the better place to research trojans and other malware.

    I look forward to seeing version 4. Any chance we can see a full size screenshot?
     
  15. chaos16

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    i find it stupid that Ewido will give its technology and signatures to Grisoft. and that Grisoft would not give there sugnatures and technology for the ewido anti-trojan.

    i know that the ewido 4.0 will be great but with the signatures that avg has it would have way better detection.
     
  16. WSFuser

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    the topic title startled me for a bit but if vinzenz.ewido says that ewido anti-malware will still exist, then ill just wait for v4.0.

    also if ewido anti-malware will still exist, then what exactly (in plain english) is happening between ewido and grisoft?
     
  17. strangequark

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    no no! not TDS again please, this is what we got there, assurance after assurance that all was well nothing going on, I hope thats not a feeling of a rug being pulled out from underneath my feet. We want to trust, believe, have faith and all the rest of it, but! previous experiences have turned us a tad cynical.
     
  18. TheQuest

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    Hi, Chubb

    What makes you come think it will become incompatible all of a sudden? do you have any reasons? or is it just a bit of lurking.

    Take Care,
    TheQuest :cool:
     
  19. dadkins

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    Ok, where do the users of the Free scanner go to get updates now?
     
  20. greenhatch

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    As long as Ewido continues to be as widely compatible with other programs as it is now, I will carry on with it. I think the fear is that being taken over, almost always leads to big changes in products, in spite of press releases indicating otherwise. Let's hope Ewido version 4 is the improvement we've been led to expect.
     
  21. dvk01

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    The 2 products Ewido anti malware ( anti trojan & anti spyware) and AVG antivirus are 2 very different products and it would be extremely difficult to integrate them into one product from a technical point of view

    AVG is still a small company that is growing and it makes quite good sense for 2 small companies to integrate & share development & marketing costs

    The big problem with ewido was/is it's lack of penetration to the mainstream public market

    Now AVG who have a brilliant publicity department will be able to use their expertise in that field to improve Ewido's penetration and Ewido's technical expertise will be able to help improve AVG which isn't by any means the most effective AV on the market

    Don't all panic and theorise about problems that don't exist and probaly and hopefully won't
     
  22. ErikAlbert

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    Grisoft's security suite has only two parts : firewall + AV ... Ewido could be the third part. :)
     
  23. Chubb

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    Hi, TheQuest

    Hm...I really hope that the anti-spyware module in Ewido 4.0 will still be compatible with other antivirus and anti-spyware software. When Outpost release 3.0, the anti-spyware plug-in was compatbible with CounterSpy 1.5.82. When Outpost release 3.5, it says the anit-spyware plug-in has tigher integration with the firewall and this caused incompatability with CounterSpy and gave a BSOD. Originally looking to having 2 layers of defence in spyware (Outpost and CounterSpy), I was finally required to disable the anti-spyware plug-in in Outpost to avoid the BSOD.
     
  24. Perman

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    Hi, folks, what has transpired between ewido and grisoft is nothing but normal. Company merger, business aquisition are common in business world; cyper space is no exception. What we as comsumers should look for are: what is the motive for this action; what is lingering after shock and residual effect. Normally when something this magnitude happened there are some tracks we can trace back; was it not long ago ewico heavily promoting licences sales, such as volume discount, lifetime etc; first time in their company history; this is the black cloud on the horizon; druming up their client bases==setting up public forum=aquiring massive positive comments from users; have you been one of these players.?:: IMO, the following may evolve: grisoft will integrate ewido`AT into their security suite; they have firewall and AV now, with the addition of ewido AT and perhaps another AS, then Grisoft will certainly become the first software company owning such a complete suite. Grisoft has in the last attempted to cease providing free AVG; changing heart after public pressure, by the same token, this time around they might as well say goodbye to free AVG and free Ewido. As to existing ewido clients, Grisoft are obilgated to provide support untill it dies out in normal course. One good question remains is that "should grisoft refuse to honor ewido's contract with clients, what can we as clients do, grisoft is an off-shore(outside America) company, sue them? Big if! Good luck to all (including myself):mad:
     
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  25. WSFuser

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    so its a win-win situation for both products?
     
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