Rollback rx

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by gergy, Dec 21, 2005.

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  1. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

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    Interesting in that mine is on also although no one is authorized to connect. I don't know if this is connected to Rollback though. Anyone else?
     
  2. nicM

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    I didn't notice that before, but mine has this feature enabled too. I can't say 100 % it's Rollback, but in the same time, it wasn't enabled before I've installed Rollback... Then I guess we found the culprit.

    Does someone know why? does it deal with the administrative console integration (or entreprise console), in case this component is added/used inside a network?
     
  3. beetlejuice69

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    I can say that mine was not enabled and after Rollback was installed it was. I disabled it again and then it was re-enabled. So my take on it is that Rollback is needing it enabled. Why? Now that I don`t know.
     
  4. Acadia

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    Ok, here is another question for the Rollback users. FirstDefense has the ability to create a fresh install of the OS system in its pristine, clean state, without affecting the other Snapshots. Its just as if you reformated your hard drive and started anew, but you're only doing this to one Snapshot; you still retain all of your other Snapshots. The instructions for doing so are here:
    http://www.raxco.com/support/windows/kb_details.cfm?kbid=408

    Does Rollback also have this ability to use one Snapshot to reinstall the OS and start all over again, without affecting anything else? Thank you.

    Acadia
     
  5. Peter2150

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    Hi Acadia

    I would say probably not. However owning both programs I know what I would do.

    Pete
     
  6. Chris12923

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    I wasn't sure if anyone reported this to HDS so I did. Also good catch houaus.

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  7. Acadia

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    Let me guess: uninstall RB, install FD, create a fresh OS Snapshot, use it for a while making sure that it works, uninstall FD, reinstall RB. o_O

    Acadia
     
  8. Atomas31

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    And what was there answers?

    Best regards,
    Atomas31
     
  9. Chris12923

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    It is used for their enterprise console and network management. I will let you know when I get more info.

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  10. Chris12923

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    As promised and with permission as usual.

    "Why Rollback setup enables Windows Remote Desktop?

    Rollback enables Windows terminal service (it's the service for Windows remote desktop) on Windows XP Professional
    systems during setup. Because the Rollback Enterprise console has a remote desktop feature which uses the terminal
    service to connect to the clients.

    Is there any security problems?

    The answer is no, Windows remote desktop requires a password authentication to start a session. Rollback setup just
    enables the terminal service, it does not know or do anything with user's password. When anyone trys to connect to a
    remote desktop, he will need to provide the local machine's administrator account and password to logon.

    Can I disable remote desktop?

    If you do not intent to ever use the Windows remote desktop feature with Rollback Rx Console, you can manually disable
    it. To disable remote desktop, right click My Computer, select Properties,
    select Remote and uncheck the "allow users to connect remotely..." checkbox."

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  11. beetlejuice69

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    Hey Chris. They didn`t happen to mention why it`ll re-enable it again did they?
     
  12. Atomas31

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    Thanks Chris,

    I also received the same answers than you except that I have asked them, after those answers, why does that situation affect the pro version and not only the enterprise version. To that, there answer was that Rollback pro is a client installer for enterprise console wich mean that Rollback pro can be upgraded and controlled with the enterprise console....

    Best regards,
    Atomas31
     
  13. Chris12923

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    Let me try something and I will edit this post to reflect the findings. So please check this post as I doubt you'll get an email alert.

    EDIT: I just tried to repro the issue of the remote desktop re-enabling itself and like you it did. I have shot another email to my contact and will post the results. Let me ask a question. Do you guys consider this inappropriate or a security threat? Would it affect your decision to purchase?

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
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  14. Peter2150

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    Yes. You might consider it a pain, but for a small price it time, it gains me the strengths of both programs. Actually I don't use FDISR for a while, but refresh my archives. Occasionally yes I will test the archive. Good for a failsafe backup.

    Pete
     
  15. beetlejuice69

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    Thanks for the reply Chris. No I already own it and I`m not that paranoid. I would like to know why it does re-enable itself though. Just to know their reasoning.
     
  16. Peter2150

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    I also am curious, but like bj not really concerned. True Remote desktop is enabled but with no users. I don't see it as a biggie, nor would I consider not using the product because of this.

    Pete
     
  17. Chris12923

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    And the answer is:

    "To really turn off remote desktop, please inform users to do the following:

    1. Uncheck the remote desktop option from the My Computer/Properties.
    2. Rename c:\program files\rollback\client.dll to client.old

    The service won't restart upon reboot, and there is no effect to Rollback. Client.dll is only used to conole connections."

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  18. houaus

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    Thanks Chris and everyone else who looked into it. It would be nice if they mentioned that remote desktop would be enabled in the Help or on their website. Nevertheless, thanks for the recommendation guys; I really like the program so far.
     
  19. TonyW

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    I never noticed Remote Desktop being enabled when I trialled Rollback not so long ago. (Windows XP Home user)
     
  20. Acadia

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    That's because Remote Desktop only exists in XP Pro. ;)

    Acadia
     
  21. aigle

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    No, I can see it here in XP home as well.
     

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  22. Chris12923

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    I think you mean Remote desktop can only act as a client in XP Home and not as a server.


    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/rdfaq.mspx
    Q. Is Remote Desktop available on Windows XP Home Edition?
    A. No, however you can upgrade from Windows XP Home Edition to Windows XP Professional to get Remote Desktop. You can use Windows XP Home Edition as the client for accessing your Windows XP Professional computer running Remote Desktop.


    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  23. aigle

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    I want to know is it possible to install VMware on a system that has RollbackRx already installed? Is there a chance of conflict? I don,t know whether VMware has anything to do with MBR or not?
    Any ideas?
     
  24. starfish_001

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    I don't think it should cause a problem - VMware does not touch the MBR - can't see why it would.

    It creates a virtual disk as a large file - so can't see why that would not work with RB - unless it clashes at a driver level
     
  25. Longboard

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    @Chris and Peter

    What happened with your discussions re Terabyte and RBack?

    IFW took ~30 minutes for image and verification for me to USB hard drive.




    Where you able to test Bootit/IFW (I saw a result for IFD) with RBack?
    I imagine IFW would overwrite the mbr also therefore nullify/deactivate RBack.

    Chris you are making some oblique references to a new development which I assume is HDS providing an imaging & restore function. Yes?
    I have had some e-mail from HDS about this potentially exciting possibility.

    Also:
    Out of interest what has been the general experience with multiple install/uninstalls with RBack? Fully uninstalled? Registration issues?

    I really dont need multiple functional RBack snapshots, just daily or per session backups.

    If I uninstall RBack do I keep system "as is" or revert to some prior snapshot.
    I appreciate I would lose all prior snapshots.

    Thanks
    LBD
     
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